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I saw this earlier and I am not surprised by the hypocrisy. Fox News and CNN are the same when it comes to crap reporting.
CNN has become the Fox of the left. I rarely watch them anymore actually. The only outlets I Listen to are KTAR (local radio), ABC Nightly News, PBS, TYT and Phillip DeFranco. The rest has turned too partisan biased.
I don't agree with the whole preconditions angle at all. I was just starting to see how it made sense to you and that seemed reasonable. I know you didn't say I had TDS but when someone posts in that manner I can see they are not sincere in having a mutually respectful conversation.
What do you not agree to with preconditions?
-Do you deny the fact that Obama said he would meet with dictators without preconditions?
-Do you deny the fact that Obama faced sharp criticism from Republicans for saying he didn't need preconditions to meet with dictators (one piece of evidence is your own video, lol)?
-Do you deny the fact that Trump has said that he does need preconditions to meet?
-Do you deny the fact that there is a difference between saying you need preconditions and not needing preconditions?
Look, I am not even opposed to Obama meeting with dictators without preconditions per se. Presidents meet with "good" dictators all the time. The problem is, most of the criticism leveled at Obama was from saying he didn't need preconditions to meet with murderous dictators that threaten the US in some fashion. Your video is just an example of why people say the media is biased - just not in the way you intended.
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Well that was before Korea advanced to where they are today but, Trump fancies himself a deal maker...what have we got to lose at this point. Obama didn't get China on his side the way Trump has as well.....the sanctions have some real bite them even if China is cheating a little. They say Korea will be running low on cash soon.
The North Korean development of their nuclear program went into high gear in the early years of the Bush administration.
guess you missed the clips of Clinton on msnbc or cnn, telling us his deal with NK saved the world as NK promised to end its pursuit of nukes. Clinton originally funded their effort. NK went into nuke overdrive while Clinton patted himself on his back. then it continued under Bush and reached its goal under the Obama philosophy expressed by susan rice...we need to learn to live with rogue countries who have nuclear weapons.
Preconditions or not, Fox News blew up Obama and then praised Trump as being a genius for almost the same thing.
Yes, they blew up Obama for saying he'd meet with any dictator without any preconditions - not for saying that he'd meet dictators. Trump said preconditions would have to be met. Many say it is a big boost in legitimacy to meet with a president, so the president should get something guaranteed out of it.
Is your disdain for Trump blocking your vision on how this video is distorting reality?
OK so I don't watch Fox or much TV at all. I came across this article with this video that looks like they are saying the exact opposite of what they said just a few years ago. I was wondering what Fox News viewers think of this. Do you see this video as propaganda against Trump or legitimate criticism?
guess you missed the clips of Clinton on msnbc or cnn, telling us his deal with NK saved the world as NK promised to end its pursuit of nukes. Clinton originally funded their effort. NK went into nuke overdrive while Clinton patted himself on his back. then it continued under Bush and reached its goal under the Obama philosophy expressed by susan rice...we need to learn to live with rogue countries who have nuclear weapons.
I guess you missed the point when Bush listed NK as part of his axis of evil, then attacked Iraq which had already agreed to give up their nuclear program. NK got the message, and they turned off the cameras, busted the lock and restarted the reactor. They came to realize that giving up nukes was bad for Iraq and learned a lesson.
Then of course there is the very recent case of Ukraine voluntarily giving up and destroying it's nuclear arsenal, in return for international guarantees of it's sovereignty and border integrity ... then Trump's buddy Putin invades and annexes a huge chunk of the country and Trump is ok with that. The Koreans see these things and recognize duplicity.
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