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Old 03-23-2018, 08:27 AM
 
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Historically, the Congress overrides the Presidential veto 7% of the time.

There would not be a veto override if the House votes the same as they did when it was passed. IDK what the vote was in the senate.

 
Old 03-23-2018, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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And for the 61st time in the last 70 years, anyone wanting their government to be smaller, cheaper and less intrusive has lost.

No matter which party is in power, if smaller, less costly government is your concern, even if literally just one dollar less than the previous year...YOU LOSE.

As my fellow anarchist/libertarians have sardonically pointed out yeah, voting...real effective at changing things.
Trump hasn't signed it yet. The Democrats are gleeful. That tells me the cowardly, career, Establishment Republicans caved to BIG GOVERNMENT yet again. I think it will be vetoed, and rightfully so.
 
Old 03-23-2018, 08:37 AM
 
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Trump hasn't signed it yet. The Democrats are gleeful. That tells me the cowardly, career, Establishment Republicans caved to BIG GOVERNMENT yet again. I think it will be vetoed, and rightfully so.
Only quibble I have with your post is the concept of Republicans "caving" to big government. They are big government, so following their own governing philosophy isn't so much "caving" as it is "adhering to their party principles."

Any American who wants cheaper, smaller, less intrusive government has exactly zero representation. ZERO POINT ZERO ZERO, nobody, nothing, never.
 
Old 03-23-2018, 08:40 AM
 
Location: USA
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Trump hasn't signed it yet. The Democrats are gleeful. That tells me the cowardly, career, Establishment Republicans caved to BIG GOVERNMENT yet again. I think it will be vetoed, and rightfully so.
It’s almost like people working in “Big Government” benefit from the expansion of “Big Government.” Amazing.
 
Old 03-23-2018, 09:06 AM
 
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Art of the deal my ass. If you are a republican or conservative you have to be sick to your stomach tonight.

" And though more than $1 billion was allocated to border security, Dems won a provision that the money can go to fences and levees as well as repairs of existing infrastructure, but not toward the concrete wall envisioned by the president."

https://twitter.com/stopfemanownjks/...51553919062017

And the Democrats didn't get their DACA, lol.
 
Old 03-23-2018, 09:08 AM
 
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As it should be. I don't know how a fiscal conservative can support Trump's border wall.

I see, so building a $25 billion wall vs this constant annual cost of illegal immigration of over $100 billion year isn't being fiscally conservative?
 
Old 03-23-2018, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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The Wall will never be built. Trump lied, like he lied about everything else, and the gullible sucked it up like a pool vacuum.
 
Old 03-23-2018, 09:10 AM
 
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A wall isn't going to stop illegal immigration, go after the employers. As for the rest of the bill, I agree - it's too much spending: especially regarding the bloated military budget.

The good walls already in place have brought illegal immigration down to a trickle in those areas so you were saying? Not all illegal entrants are here for jobs either, thus the wall. A $25 billion wall vs the $100 billion that illegal aliens cost us is too much to spend?
 
Old 03-23-2018, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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That's fine Trump has a back up plan for a Jell-O wall which you can see through and which will bounce the Mexicans back in to their own country.
 
Old 03-23-2018, 10:21 AM
 
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Default This is why Trump should have vetoed the bill

Rush is talking about this now.

Said the Senate isn't going to do a budget next year so this will go beyond six months as stated, which means

No money for the wall and fewer agents hired.

Space to detain illegals will be reduced to less than we have now which means there will be no point in arresting them. Catch and release will remain.

Sanctuary cities will continue getting money.

We won't be allowed to replace current bad fencing with one of the prototypes. Mulvaney said it would.be a prototype wall. Not sure what the truth is

Start emailing the White House and calling Make a lot of noise!

Pass it on!

Shut down the government!

I'm still listening to the radio. Will add more later.
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