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Fidel Castro shed blood on a scale unimaginable in American terms. His butchers executed perhaps 15,000 prisoners, according to academic estimates cited by Wikipedia:
British historian Hugh Thomas, in his study Cuba or the pursuit of freedom[22] stated that "perhaps" 5,000 executions had taken place by 1970,[21] while The World Handbook of Political and Social Indicators ascertained that there had been 2,113 political executions between the years of 1958–67.Professor of political science at the University of Hawaii, Rudolph J. Rummel estimated the number of political executions at between 4,000 and 33,000 from 1958–87, with a mid range of 15,000.
That was in a country of 7 million. In per capita terms, that's the equivalent of about 680,000 executions in the United States of America with our population of 318 million. What's 680,000? The entire population of Denver or Seattle. Imagine taking every man, woman, and child of a major American city and murdering them. That's the scale of Fidel Castro's crimes.
680,000 is a bit less than the standard estimate for total military deaths in the American Civil War. Imagine standing 680,000 soldiers against a wall -- all the dead of Antietam, Gettysburg, Cold Harbor Chickamauga and every other battle of the Civil War -- and shooting them dead in cold blood. That's the equivalent of Fidel Castro's mass murder.
Get ready for no response or "they don't have nukes" response....
Trump is alienating and insulting long time allies, neighbors and democracy's while spreading the propaganda of communist dictators. If he had been president during WWII I'm thinking he would have joined forces with the axis rather than the allies.
What did we give away? Be specific, you said a TON, so.....1, 2, 3, gooooooooooooo
The summit was a very good day for Kim.
North Korea did commit “to work toward complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.” But this is non-binding and means nothing without an itemization of North Korea’s present stockpile and a timetable for its dismantling. The joint statement provided no timetable, no itemization, nor even a timetable for when Pyongyang would submit an itemization.
Secretary of State Mike Pompeo had said prior to the meeting that Trump would insist on the “complete, verifiable, irreversible dismantlement” of North Korea’s nuclear complexes. The joint statement contained not the vaguest reference to how the disarmament would be verified.
Finally, that crucial but ambiguous phrase, “denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula,” remained undefined.
At a post-summit press conference, Trump said that he would suspend joint U.S.-South Korean military exercises, saying that these war games are expensive and agreeing with Kim’s charge that they’re “provocative.” This was quite a concession.
So Kim went home from Singapore with a bevy of prizes: the legitimization of his regime as a world power worthy of peer treatment by an American president (who, afterward, suggested a possible future White House meeting); a suspension of military exercises on his border (which had been a tangible sign of the U.S.–South Korean military alliance, which Pyongyang has long wanted to disrupt); and the easing of once-firm demands on the pace and verification of disarmament.
Trump is alienating and insulting long time allies, neighbors and democracy's while spreading the propaganda of communist dictators.
You put it your way, and some of us see it as The President is making some changes in some unfair trade situations with our longtime allies and neighbors to make situations more equitable. They (and some of you) don't like him looking out for the USA and putting her first, but there is a new Sheriff in town and our neighbors/allies need us a helluva lot more than we need them.
They'll come around and be fine with the new way of doing things.
North Korea did commit “to work toward complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.” But this is non-binding and means nothing without an itemization of North Korea’s present stockpile and a timetable for its dismantling. The joint statement provided no timetable, no itemization, nor even a timetable for when Pyongyang would submit an itemization.
Secretary of State Mike Pompeo had said prior to the meeting that Trump would insist on the “complete, verifiable, irreversible dismantlement” of North Korea’s nuclear complexes. The joint statement contained not the vaguest reference to how the disarmament would be verified.
Finally, that crucial but ambiguous phrase, “denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula,” remained undefined.
At a post-summit press conference, Trump said that he would suspend joint U.S.-South Korean military exercises, saying that these war games are expensive and agreeing with Kim’s charge that they’re “provocative.” This was quite a concession.
So Kim went home from Singapore with a bevy of prizes: the legitimization of his regime as a world power worthy of peer treatment by an American president (who, afterward, suggested a possible future White House meeting); a suspension of military exercises on his border (which had been a tangible sign of the U.S.–South Korean military alliance, which Pyongyang has long wanted to disrupt); and the easing of once-firm demands on the pace and verification of disarmament.
So, we really gave noting away.....and now we are ready to move forward.....
Again, what did what TON did we give up? Above says we really did not give up anything......
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Originally Posted by Astral_Weeks Obviously, I wish Pompeo and team the best of luck. And it is possible he can pull a rabbit out of the hat.
But let's not kid ourselves: we gave a ton away already.....the meeting with a US president this soon with no binding concessions...?
"The Obama administration has a penchant for giving unilateral concessions to dictators, receiving little in return—and then declaring a diplomatic victory."
Trump is alienating and insulting long time allies, neighbors and democracy's while spreading the propaganda of communist dictators. If he had been president during WWII I'm thinking he would have joined forces with the axis rather than the allies.
Do you even know what communism is?
Serious question.
That is like comparing a bank robber to a mass murderer. Here is a hint for you: The Castro regime ain't the mass murderer.
Wrong.
Estimates of between 35,000 to more than 141,000 were killed by the Castro regime. But the ones that were not killed by Castro got free medical care and college so I guess that evens out.
Both North Korea and Cuba have free universal healthcare, Tuition-free colleges and North Korea has a 100% literacy rate. Of course, no one in either country has the money to pay for any of it so it has to be free.
The upside of murderous communist socialist dictators is they are good at providing their people with medical care and a good education. Just never complain about anything.
So, we really gave noting away.....and now we are ready to move forward.....
Again, what did what TON did we give up? Above says we really did not give up anything......
You need to re-read my post which was quite clear about what we gave away....
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