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Old 07-16-2018, 11:18 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Not really, only a valid concern. Anti-vaccine, I am not but it makes sense after reading many posts attacking you, how my concern got your ire.
Actually, I'll thank you for that. It is sometimes hard to tell when someone is genuinely concerned and when they're just posting to get a rise out of someone.
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Old 07-16-2018, 11:34 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Not really, only a valid concern. Anti-vaccine, I am not but it makes sense after reading many posts attacking you, how my concern got your ire.
Your concern is not backed by any evidence. HPV vaccines have been around long enough that we know they do not impair fertility.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/va...y-faqs.html#A7

"Can HPV vaccines damage women’s ovaries?
CDC is aware of public concern about the safety of HPV vaccine. Since the vaccine’s introduction in 2006, vaccine safety monitoring and studies conducted by CDC, FDA, and other organizations have documented a reassuring safety record. There is no current evidence that HPV vaccines cause reproductive problems in women."

More details at the link.
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Old 07-17-2018, 05:43 AM
 
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Yes, shingles in on the rise. There is good reason to believe that the widespread use of the chicken pox vaccine is responsible for the the rise in shingles case considering people who have had chicken pox or the chicken pox vaccine no longer recieve the immune boost from being repeatedly re-exposed to the virus that would help keep it shingles check and dormant.

Keep in mind that you’ll be told that this theory has been thoroughly debunked but also keep in mind the amount of money involved in these vaccines that could prevent the proper funding and publishing of unbiased studies into this matter.
No....there is not good reason to believe the varicella vaccine is responsible for the rise in shingles cases...

A recent CDC study, using Medicare data from 1992 to 2010, found that among adults aged 65 years or older, zoster rates were increasing even before the varicella vaccine was introduced in the United States.[1] Moreover, zoster rates didn't accelerate after the routine varicella vaccination program began.
https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/822982

How would you propose setting up an "unbiased" study to prove otherwise? Build a time machine?
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Old 07-17-2018, 12:37 PM
 
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Isn't it odd? You never hear of anyone having a disease until there is a vaccine for it, like shingles.
Shingles have been around since the Middle Ages. Pretty sure the vaccine is more recent.
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Old 07-17-2018, 12:56 PM
 
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Shingles have been around since the Middle Ages. Pretty sure the vaccine is more recent.
About 1 in 3 get shingles in their life, mainly when older. Sometimes it is very mild, more typically with a moderate rash and aggravation for a few weeks. A few get severe post-herpetic neuralgia, and this can be very disabling and long term.
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Old 07-17-2018, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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As a nurse in critical care for many years there is no justification for not vaccinating except within existing contraindications (previous reaction, and neurological reactive person). When kids are not vaccinated, their status creates and causes illness in other kids. Simple as that. Some of those infected kids die.
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Old 07-18-2018, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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One of my best girlfriends had HPV induced mouth and throat cancer. She has scars all over her body and is still working on learning to talk with her reconstructed tongue.

Imagine my relief to learn that the vaccine is for made up problems!
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Old 07-20-2018, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Maybe this will interest some here:

Aluminum in Vaccines Cause Autism | GreenMedInfo | Blog Entry
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Old 07-20-2018, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Neither vaccines nor any of the ingredients in them cause autism.

https://www.autismspeaks.org/science...nes-and-autism

"The study’s authors, from the University of Sydney, in Australia, summarized their findings as follows:

• There was no relationship between vaccination and autism (OR: 0.99; 95% CI: 0.92 to 1.06).

• There was no relationship between vaccination and ASD [autism spectrum disorder] (OR: 0.91; 95% CI: 0.68 to 1.20).

• There was no relationship between [autism/ASD] and MMR (OR: 0.84; 95% CI: 0.70 to 1.01).

• There was no relationship between [autism/ASD] and thimerosal (OR: 1.00; 95% CI: 0.77 to 1.31).

• There was no relationship between [autism/ASD] and mercury (Hg) (OR: 1.00; 95% CI: 0.93 to 1.07)."
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Old 07-20-2018, 05:11 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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There is plenty of doubt planted in many minds on all of these vaccines and what they are doing to the minds, young and old. And Aluminum has been questioned for decades.
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