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Just a blip in our history? We tried to go for this whole idea with a house a car a nuclear family and a steady job. Not that simple today.
Nobody MADE women go out to get jobs. If American families weren’t so materialistic, we could still have those same nuclear families today with working spouse and a stay-at-home one.
There's still plenty of us doing it, but the decline in moderate-income jobs has made things harder all around for many. And you can certainly still be a nuclear family with both parents working.
Nobody MADE women go out to get jobs. If American families weren’t so materialistic, we could still have those same nuclear families today with working spouse and a stay-at-home one.
That is hard to do when wages haven't increased for years and it takes two incomes to simply finance the basics.
It was the best earth has put forward.. until liberals destroyed it
Liberals are for living wages and healthcare for all...you know two things that take undue burdens off of a middle class family instead of trying to bankrupt them!
But go ahead...Trump and his minions need more tax cuts.
When is the last time you golfed at Mar-A -Lago?
Liberals are for living wages and healthcare for all...you know two things that take undue burdens off of a middle class family instead of trying to bankrupt them!
But go ahead...Trump and his minions need more tax cuts.
When is the last time you golfed at Mar-A -Lago?
And what is the percentage of the public who can afford to play golf (albeit at a public course, rather than a private club) or engage in any leisure-time activity, compared to two generations ago?
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Really? WWII, women worked as husbands were off fighting. The 50s were more traditional and they raised the Baby Boomers. These days working class families cannot survive on one income.
And far too often, when (s)he re-enters the work force, (s)he is not immediately aware of the higher marginal tax rates on any money earned. Better off living with unmarried Baby Mama/Daddy and getting all the penny-ante tax credits which, nevertheless, can still add up; more so if the "unofficial" spose can work off the books in the underground economy.
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Nobody MADE women go out to get jobs. If American families weren’t so materialistic, we could still have those same nuclear families today with working spouse and a stay-at-home one.
Really? WWII, women worked as husbands were off fighting. The 50s were more traditional and they raised the Baby Boomers. These days working class families cannot survive on one income.
I don't believe anybody way back then, could have ever envision an America we live in today. So much is so different from those days of yore in our society, so many things we couldn't even imagine back then. I believe it does exist out for a much smaller number of people, but todays nuclear family is not your Leave it to Beaver nuclear family.
"Leave It To Beaver" family as in the parents married to each other and ALL of the children born from that union? While the parents were married to each other?
I partly blame the sexual revolution for the deterioration of the nuclear family...children being born out of wedlock to different "baby daddies".
Anytime anything is put forth as "the dream", it is bound to fade. It is somebody else's dream that is not meant for all. Great families are intentional. They don't just happen because you have a wedding, house and baby.
To me it looks like it wasn't an experiment, it was a real aspiration that was taking hold. But then something went wrong. Not sure what all was involved but what I've noticed the most is the big change from debt being "bad" to debt being "good". Young adults in the 1930's, 40's, and most of the 50's had been raised to Stay Out Of Debt at all costs. That was how you built wealth, how you got ahead, how you kept your family secure. Now it's taken for granted that the average adult has a load of debt. The focus now is on how well you manage your debt -- not whether or not going into debt is a viable path upward in the first place. Things went from a savings model to a rabid consumerist model. Lots of junk available to everybody via charge accounts, credit cards, sub prime loans, first, second, third, mortgages and more. It became necessary for both husband and wife to work just to support personal debt rather than to get ahead. Higher education today? It's never been so heavily debt financed and with so little payoff. I was with some 30 somethings last weekend. Evidently in the private sector 50 to 60 hour work weeks are not uncommon, with no extra pay. Pensions are uncommon and lifetime pensions practically non-existent. Vacation time is meager. Health insurance can cost $400 - $700/month or more. In the highest paying job markets housing is pretty much unaffordable, even if you finance it to the max. Plenty of people are not living the American Dream. Plenty don't even know what it was and that's probably a very good thing.
Yeah those crazy liberals with their nasty ideas like weekends (no more 6 day workweeks), paid overtime, paid time off, safety regulations, child labor laws, Social Security and Medicare and so much more. Life was just perfect before they came along.....
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