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I am a Christian. I support separating children from their parents at the border 69 20.29%
I am a Christian. I do not support separating children from their parents at the border 80 23.53%
I am not a Christian. I support separating children from their parents at the border 59 17.35%
I am not a Christian. I do not support separating children from their parents at the border 132 38.82%
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Old 06-18-2018, 06:19 AM
 
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Separating families is not a law. This is a Trump administration policy.

It is not Democrats supporting this. It is Republicans.

Children are not ripped from their parents arms when their parents are charged with crimes and imprisoned.

They are not told that the children are going off to bathe and then taken away.

Plans are made. Ongoing contact is arranged.

Seeking amnesty is not a crime.

 
Old 06-18-2018, 06:20 AM
 
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Let's cut to the chase of this whole nonsense. Central and South American countries are collectivistic, socialistic, and destructive of individual rights, individual excellence, and a rational Capitalistic existence. Left wingers in America want to destroy our country by admitting as many residents of these countries as possible. They are used to socialism and mediocrity and will tend to vote for the party and platform that mimics the miserable system they came from and are used to. THAT is why the American Left wants unfettered immigration and that is why they are squealing in protest about the separation of children and parents on our southern border.


There is nothing honorable or good about the phony fake feigned indignance. The goal is to destroy Capitalism and freedom from within by introducing the cancer of a population that is FINE WITH accepting the nanny State as their nanny.


They want to import the social attitudes of Central and South America which are incompatible with freedom, excellence, Capitalism, and achievement, but are compatible with playing the role of sheep to the wolf of "benevolent" central government.


Wake up people, it's not about immigration, it's about our national destruction.
Yet they hope that conservatives are dumb enough to fall for their, what they think is hidden, agenda. There are some ignorant democrats who fall for it but hopefully many are finding out what this is all about. They need only to look to other countries as an example of what could happen here.
 
Old 06-18-2018, 06:25 AM
 
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It just amazes me how all these people just pour into this country illegally . Then they demand their so called rights, at our expense. The news keeps pushing these stories of inhumane treatment of these people. Yet we neglect and don't take care of our own citizens.

Are we not suppose to notice this.

I'm sorry for the people that pour into this country illegally, however they are doing it illegally. None of us can just decide to illegally enter their countries. We would be arrested.

I think the whole mess needs some tough love. We are not responsible for all these people.

We are being bullied to accept this culture, of becoming the countries all these people come from. illegally. No one wants to face up to this.


I'm sorry when the US has the poverty it does among its own. The neglect the US Govt, and much of society shows its own. We have so much poverty and problems with crime in the US.

I'm sorry when a country can't take care of its own. It has no business taking the world's troubled souls. It is a bullying tactic from these 3rd World Countries.

I'm so fed up with the News this morning I had to turn it off. Our own news networks making America look like a inhumane monster. We did not tell all these people to come here, yet we are.to be blamed.

Its a shame the news isn't reporting on how many Americans slept on the street all night. Or all the elderly rationing the limited food, and medicine they have. Or all the kids that have to worry about all the school shootings.

Something is very inhumane towards American citizens also. Such as who is suppose to pay all the bills, due to these constant flow of people pouring in.
People need to remember this, if the MSM reports it, the opposite is true. Yes, the American people are treated inhumanely at the expense of illegals. I daresay, the majority of those pushing to allow illegals to enter the US illegally are not even Americans.
 
Old 06-18-2018, 06:32 AM
 
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Yes. For most bills, currently, Dems can block them from ever being called for a vote in the Senate. Reconciliation can be used in very limited circumstances on certain budgetary legislation on spending, revenues, and the federal debt limit with a simple majority vote in both the House and Senate (51 votes instead of 60).
I'm not buying it. US citizens are separated from their kids when they're arrested/incarcerated for violating the law. Why should illegal aliens have MORE rights than US citizens?
The left only cares about these kids because its happening under Trump. They didnt care when it happened under Obama and they sure dont care about all the kids, even newborns, that are taken from their drug addicted mothers who are jailed or sent to rehab and the kids become wards of the state every day in this country in every state. Its two faced.
 
Old 06-18-2018, 06:33 AM
 
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Separating families is not a law. This is a Trump administration policy.


Seeking amnesty is not a crime.
What are they seeking amnesty from? No, they are illegals.
The O administration separated children from their lawbreaking parents.
Where else are they suppose to go? Jail?
Having them all together in a safe place (paid for by taxpayers) away from the dangers they would face with food, shelter and recreation/entertainment is better than the fate many would face here with their parents.
The parents and children are at the mercy of traffickers, rapists and God knows what else if left to their own methods of survival. Who knows how many children get here only to lose their lives in one way or another. Get your stupid heads out of the sand. Unless you already know all this and it isn't really about the safety of the children after all. Hmmmm?
 
Old 06-18-2018, 06:36 AM
 
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Separating families is not a law. This is a Trump administration policy.

It is not Democrats supporting this. It is Republicans.

Children are not ripped from their parents arms when their parents are charged with crimes and imprisoned.

They are not told that the children are going off to bathe and then taken away.

Plans are made. Ongoing contact is arranged.

Seeking amnesty is not a crime.
Separating children even newborns from their drug addicted mothers happens everyday in this country. The mothers are sent to jail or rehab if lucky and the kids are wards of the state. If the court thinks that a relative would be suitable than the child can be turned over to them ,but its not a given and lots of time the state doesnt agree.
 
Old 06-18-2018, 06:45 AM
 
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Although I am completely in favor of legal immigration, I am completely against illegal immigration.*

However that being said, how in the world can anyone think that separating children from their parents and housing them in shelters is a GOOD thing?! It just boggles my mind.

*I do think, however, that it should be much easier for anyone who is now in the country illegally to become a citizen if s/he has a job.
 
Old 06-18-2018, 06:50 AM
 
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Separating children even newborns from their drug addicted mothers happens everyday in this country. The mothers are sent to jail or rehab if lucky and the kids are wards of the state. If the court thinks that a relative would be suitable than the child can be turned over to them ,but its not a given and lots of time the state doesnt agree.
There is a process that involves social workers, court hearings, emergency placements, ...

Contact continues between parent and child and attempts are made to reunify the family.

The mother is not told that they are taking the baby off to be bathed and then she never sees the child again.

The idea that we do this to our U.S. children is a lie.

Also, when children are removed from the custody of their parents, they are not housed in old Walmart buildings.

They are typically placed with foster families for emergency placements. More rarely, older children with behavioral issues might be placed in a group home.

In all my years as a social worker, no matter how poor the parenting or what level of criminal activity I have never once heard or ever read of kids stolen from parents and housed in an old Walmart building.
 
Old 06-18-2018, 06:53 AM
 
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What are they seeking amnesty from? No, they are illegals.
The O administration separated children from their lawbreaking parents.
Where else are they suppose to go? Jail?
Having them all together in a safe place (paid for by taxpayers) away from the dangers they would face with food, shelter and recreation/entertainment is better than the fate many would face here with their parents.
The parents and children are at the mercy of traffickers, rapists and God knows what else if left to their own methods of survival. Who knows how many children get here only to lose their lives in one way or another. Get your stupid heads out of the sand. Unless you already know all this and it isn't really about the safety of the children after all. Hmmmm?
Yes, it really is about the safety of the children.

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Old 06-18-2018, 07:01 AM
 
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Yes, it really is about the safety of the children.

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Did you care about the children taken from their parents under the Obama administration? Did you care about the kids put in cages under Obama? Did you care about all the unaccompanied minors who tried to cross the border under Obama? The “safety of the children” ? Oh please. The left didnt care about “the safety of the children” under Obama. They only care because its under Trump who they hate.

And maybe whereever you work children taken from drug addicted mothers get special treatment and due process but its not everywhere. And many group homes stink. No adequate supervision. Poor conditions. Bullying. Walmart under the border control might be better.

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