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If the arabs practiced "non violence" , there would be no war.
If arabs practiced non violence, wars will continue. It wouldn't be long before another excuse for war is made up. Look at recent history, we have ww1,2 about economic control, then it was communism, now terrorism. What's next? I don't think terrorism is stopping any time soon, but when it starts to die down, they'll come with something new, Who are they?
If arabs practiced non violence, wars will continue. It wouldn't be long before another excuse for war is made up. Look at recent history, we have ww1,2 about economic control, then it was communism, now terrorism. What's next? I don't think terrorism is stopping any time soon, but when it starts to die down, they'll come with something new, Who are they?
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The war in question is the one involving the topic of this thread. It is not a metaphysical discussion of all war throughout civilization and time.
The war in question is the one involving the topic of this thread. It is not a metaphysical discussion of all war throughout civilization and time.
I am not talking about "a metaphysical discussion of all war throughout civilization and time", I was talking about the last 100 years. There were causes of war before, so they will be causes after this current one. I'll be more specific: terrorism and the "war against it" will continue for another 10 years and then people will be too devastated to continue to be played out by the arm dealers. Then they will move on to something else, maybe by this time they'll be ready to destroy themselves between the major states in ww3? I don't know really, but I am sure wars will continue.
I am not talking about "a metaphysical discussion of all war throughout civilization and time", I was talking about the last 100 years. There were causes of war before, so they will be causes after this current one. I'll be more specific: terrorism and the "war against it" will continue for another 10 years and then people will be too devastated to continue to be played out by the arm dealers. Then they will move on to something else, maybe by this time they'll be ready to destroy themselves between the major states in ww3? I don't know really, but I am sure wars will continue.
This thread is discussing Israel. The quote you replied to was doing the same. Not all civilization for one hundred years.
Israel wouldn't have been formed without the USA;[not a fact]
it wouldn't have come into being on it's own, like countries normally form. It was propped-up artificially. [LOL, no]It's been fed and protected artificially as well. [You ought to read about the British Mandate - seriously] If it was left to fend for itself like other countries, it would have faded away years ago. [Are you daft? Israel is a food exporter, unlike its neighbors which are net importers]
Look behind the curtain and see what's really going on there. As with many matters, "things aren't as they appear to be".
When facts don't match your opinion, just ignore facts or make up your own.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine
The end of the 19th century saw the beginning of Zionist immigration and the revival of the Hebrew language. The movement was publicly supported by Great Britain during World War I with the Balfour Declaration of 1917.
“His Majesty's government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.”
It was BRITAIN that was instrumental in the creation of Israel, not the USA.
The Soviet Union was the first country to recognize Israel de jure on 17 May 1948, followed by Poland, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, Ireland, and South Africa. The United States extended de jure recognition after the first Israeli election, on 31 January 1949.
Rising antisemitism forced many Jews to flee Eastern Europe. To escape the pogroms, tens of thousands of Russian Jews immigrated to Palestine in the early 1920s, in a wave of immigration that was called the Third Aliyah.
From around the world, Jews dropped coins into Jewish National Fund "Blue Boxes" for land purchases in Palestine.
Israeli kibbutzniks were MARXISTS and so the Soviet Union was obligated to support their allies - which thus obligated the Americans to support the non-Marxists in Israel, as a balancing force. This did not sit well with the Muslims.
Modern agriculture developed in the late nineteenth century, when Jews began settling in the land. They purchased land which was mostly semi-arid, although much had been rendered untillable by deforestation, soil erosion and neglect. They set about clearing rocky fields, constructing terraces, draining swampland, reforesting, counteracting soil erosion, and washing salty land. Since independence in 1948, the total area under cultivation has increased from 408,000 acres (1,650 km2) to 1,070,000 acres (4,300 km2), while the number of agricultural communities has increased from 400 to 725. Agricultural production has expanded 16 times, three times more than population growth.
The first PC microprocessor - the intel 8088 the first PC microprocessor used on the first PC IBM PC was designed in Israel, at Intel's Haifa laboratory.
And don't forget that the Brits prohibited the Jews from owning arms, while arming the Arabs - and after the partitioning, gave their fortifications to the Arabs.
On 14 May 1948, the day before the expiration of the British Mandate, David Ben-Gurion, the head of the Jewish Agency, declared "the establishment of a Jewish state in Eretz-Israel, to be known as the State of Israel".
The following day, the armies of four Arab countries—Egypt, Syria, Transjordan and Iraq—entered what had been British Mandatory Palestine, launching the 1948 Arab–Israeli War; Contingents from Yemen, Morocco, Saudi Arabia and Sudan joined the war.
(For a total of EIGHT Muslim nations)
Nothing.
You quoted my post. My post is discussing the topic of this thread. What part of this arent you getting?
I do get what you're saying, but it's all related. The israel-palestine conflict is related to the war on terror, and the war on terror is related to other wars. When you say [If the arabs practiced "non violence" , there would be no war] I agree, but the bigger issue of terrorism will continue-as the subject we're discussing is only a part of it. Why do you feel the need to argue about every detail? I was adding to what you said, not contradicting you.
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