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Old 05-21-2018, 09:17 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Hannity is grasping at straws. He doesn't even believe what he's saying. Even if it were possible for schools to track their students' social media, the kids would just go underground. His "plan" doesn't accomplish anything other than perpetuating a police state.
It's being done now.
https://gizmodo.com/schools-are-usin...for-1824002976


My former school system, several years ago, had a Senior Assistant to the Associate Superintendent for Academics whose only job was to go on YouTube every evening to see if students had posted videos about any of the schools in the system. He got $120K/year for that.
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Old 05-21-2018, 09:23 AM
 
Location: The analog world
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It's being done now.
https://gizmodo.com/schools-are-usin...for-1824002976


My former school system, several years ago, had a Senior Assistant to the Associate Superintendent for Academics whose only job was to go on YouTube every evening to see if students had posted videos about any of the schools in the system. He got $120K/year for that.
It's futile, though, for the purpose Hannity is promoting. Your school district was managing its reputation, but kids who have something to hide will always be one step ahead of those who will try to monitor them.

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Old 05-21-2018, 09:25 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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It's futile, though, for the purpose Hannity is promoting. Your school district was managing its reputation, but kids who have something to hide will always one step ahead of those who will try to monitor them.
Maybe some, but kids are almost as dumb as the teachers who put stupid **** on Face Book that gets them into trouble.
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Old 05-21-2018, 09:27 AM
 
Location: The analog world
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Maybe some, but kids are almost as dumb as the teachers who put stupid **** on Face Book that gets them into trouble.
You definitely have a point there!
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Old 05-21-2018, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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How about the Government Intrusion of the Law Abiding with yet more, and more unconstitutional laws, and restrictions on guns? How about that intrusion?

How about the Government Intrusion of more, and more Taxes, and Fees on everything imaginable?

PARENTS should be monitoring their kids, not the School Districts (government). The lack or responsible parental involvement is part of the reason these kids go off the rails.
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Old 05-21-2018, 09:45 AM
 
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Hannity needs to shut the F up! What we need a child psychiatrist in every school that can deal with troubled kids before they get to a point where they want to hurt themselves and/or others. She/he could even do after school workshops for kids on how to deal with issues them face in their lives.

Sounds great in theory. Doesn't always work like that though. When our daughter was in HS she was in contact with a kid so very similar to Cruz. We were monitoring their texts and the kid made a comment about how things are going to change, just see what happens tomorrow in school. Now he had a history of being angry , fighting , was off and on meds for schizophrenia and bi polar disorder. So we contacted the school which was aware of some other issues with him and our daughter. So they brought him and his guardian (aunt) in and talked with him, the school counselor had a one on one and the kid basically told them everything they wanted to hear. In the end we were made to feel like the bad ones for making such a huge deal of it.


So yeah, sounds like a great plan but I don't think it would work the way you think it will.
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Old 05-21-2018, 10:06 AM
 
Location: London
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that is all well and good, but what happens when these troubled children dont want to go to the school psychiatrist? what then, make them go? you might push them further down the path of becoming a school shooter.
You're worried about pissing the kid off that way, but you don't think monitoring their social media will **** them off too?

Except in that case, they'll learn to be much more careful concealing the red flags they'd normally be less cautious about throwing off.

Mandatory personal surveillance won't make it less likely for them to do the shooting, it would most likely make them more careful to not get caught beforehand. That's the last thing we want.
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Old 05-21-2018, 10:09 AM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...media-postings


It's amazing how with conservatives, the answer for everything is more government intrusion into people's private lives. Why don't conservatives hold the First Amendment as sacred as they do the Second? They want to police every aspect of everybody's lives. But God forbid we actually have a debate about the one thing that actually is the problem.
I would call for parents to give a damn and monitor their own brat's social media. In fact, I would call for parents to have a brain and forbid social media. Let their kids interact in the real world.

And what, pray tell, is the "one thing that is actually the problem"? Tell us the one thing that will magically cure all social ills? Please enlighten us.
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Old 05-21-2018, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Camberville
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Ummm. linked with no comment.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.3ee1d85f15b0

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/sc...ns-free-speech

https://www.today.com/parents/school...ccounts-t42221

Spying on students? Education publisher Pearson monitoring social media activity | Fox News

Yeah, I know the last is Fox News. That doesn't change the fact that Pearson is monitoring social media for negative comments about its tests.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.1d0e460fbd4d

Will make some of you happier.
I manage social media for a major university. You better believe that *every* brand is using social listening tools to see what is being said about them on social media. Heck, anyone can get a free Hootsuite account, create a stream tracking a keyword or boolean search phrase, and you're "monitoring." Doing this for the university really helps me identify broken outlets in the library or issues with dining services rather than potential PR flareups.

Well-meaning senior administrators often ask about monitoring students. Not only do I not feel comfortable doing so morally, but it would also be a huge drain on resources (i.e. we would need both specialized computer programs *and* to more than triple our staff) - and this is for a fairly small university. It takes a lot more work to monitor students who are not specifically mentioning the institution. Not to mention that we are all limited by privacy settings - my guess is most threatening and concerning posts are either behind private accounts or on peer-to-peer messaging services.
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Old 05-21-2018, 10:11 AM
 
Location: The analog world
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I would call for parents to give a damn and monitor their own brat's social media. In fact, I would call for paretns to have a brain and forbid social media. Let their kids interact in the real world.
Can't stuff the genie back in the bottle. Social media are here to stay. You're on a form of social media right now.
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