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Old 06-11-2018, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Austin
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dr. peterson didn't say what the OP asserted in the title of this thread. He didn't say once in the referenced clip that "the breakdown of marriage ruined women's lives." perhaps listen to the entire short clip and see what you think of what dr. peterson actually said.

by the way, this isn't just some person espousing his personal beliefs. this prolifically published educator is a clinical psychologist and professor of psychology at the University of Toronto. His main areas of study are in abnormal, social, and personality psychology.
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Old 06-11-2018, 09:13 AM
 
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and he taught me something that I had never thought about before - how once you have enough money to stave off the wolves, extra money becomes unimportant.
Because I have listened to his lectures I have heard much of what he said before, but this stood out to me in this video. I have always felt that more money did not make my husband and I happier. We are happiest when we are together. Until two years ago we worked schedules that allowed us to have only 3 days off a month together. It was a drain on our relationship so I finally retired from my second career which cut our income by a third. Best decision ever. Now my former job has offered a part time position to me that I can make my own schedule around my husband's.

Often more money is just that, but what do you lose to get it? Money isn't everything.
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Old 06-11-2018, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Because I have listened to his lectures I have heard much of what he said before, but this stood out to me in this video. I have always felt that more money did not make my husband and I happier. We are happiest when we are together. Until two years ago we worked schedules that allowed us to have only 3 days off a month together. It was a drain on our relationship so I finally retired from my second career which cut our income by a third. Best decision ever. Now my former job has offered a part time position to me that I can make my own schedule around my husband's.

Often more money is just that, but what do you lose to get it?
It's not about you. It's about the fact that one of the main reasons couples break up is over money concerns. You've never heard that? lol
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Old 06-11-2018, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Texas
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dr. peterson didn't say what the OP asserted in the title of this thread. He didn't say once in the referenced clip that "the breakdown of marriage ruined women's lives." perhaps listen to the entire short clip and see what you think of what dr. peterson actually said.

by the way, this isn't just some person espousing his personal beliefs. this prolifically published educator is a clinical psychologist and professor of psychology at the University of Toronto. His main areas of study are in abnormal, social, and personality psychology.
You've ruined it for the Vapid Response Team. How in the world do you expect people to learn if they can't judge an entire speech by the improper way someone titles that speech?
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Old 06-11-2018, 09:24 AM
 
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It's not about you. It's about the fact that one of the main reasons couples break up is over money concerns. You've never heard that? lol
What does this have to do with the quote I was responding to? Are you being facetious?
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Old 06-11-2018, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Texas
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What does this have to do with the quote I was responding to? Are you being facetious?
I specifically addressed your quote.

Again, it's not about you.

Again of course it's about money, which is what YOU brought up in your post in response to what Peterson said since that is usually the top reason couples break up. How in the world did you NOT understand any of that?????????

Granted I'm repeating myself but it is impossible to explain it in any simplier terms or in any other way.
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Old 06-11-2018, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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He seems to be mourning the demise of the 1950s. He seems to me to be so far right that he is in danger of falling off the edge.

Men represent order; women represent chaos. “Consciousness is symbolically masculine...resistance to male dominance is unnatural.” 12 Rules For Life: An Antidote To Chaos—Jordan Peterson, referenced in an article by Pankaj Mishra in NYR Daily.

No thanks.

I had a tough time watching that video. That is one twitchy, hyper guy!
Holy quote mining batman.
Let me try doing the same thing.
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I [am]... one twitchy, hyper guy!
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Old 06-11-2018, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Most people know who he is but you seem to have a wall up already about him so go on and let others who want to listen do so.

I have to admit I agree with his opinion that science is the truth and Christianity is not.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGaEcAeTiP0
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Old 06-11-2018, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I have to admit I agree with his opinion that science is the truth and Christianity is not.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGaEcAeTiP0
He doesn't specifically say that. What he did say is science wasn't around until 500 years ago. That science truth tells you what things are. Religious truth tells you how you should act. That is what he said. Context matters.
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Old 06-11-2018, 09:52 AM
 
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- Marriage is for the rich.
- Women have sucky jobs.
- Early 1950s and 60s.
- Women leave law firms at 30 for the desire to have a life.

These are ridiculous statements just in the first five minutes of the video. Then the rest is just a rant. I think my cynicism about this guy was justified after watching the video. BirdieBelle’s link intensified my case as well.
I agree. That's as far as I got.
Marriage rates have dropped for both rich and poor. At least one study sited reasons for lower rates of marriage among lower income as decreased pool of men with steady well paying jobs, increased incarceration rates for men, decreasing wage gap between men and women, government benefits and more living together instead of marrying.
Sucky jobs. Generally lower income people have suckier jobs.
Happiness polls are bogus.
So female attorneys in their 30's choose to not work 80hrs. a week because their husbands are making 350K/year.


What has any of this to do with decrease in marriages have ruined women's lives.
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