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Every other libertarian that has responded to this thread has stepped up to the plate and owned it..
its your turn
Gwynedd is validated in their claim to say the Democrats are now the worst of everything as a new form secular authoritarianism.
Proof-demanding them to respond to your mental gymnastics of trying to conflate a privatized military with being funded by tax payer dollars. You have very little understanding what you're complaining about. Proof is stating if ExxonMobil decided to invade a country, they would have to fund it as they are the owners/employers of a privatized military force. Not public funds via taxes and congressional oversight.
Again you are hopelessly confused. A libertarian in principle is against a legal monopoly of force. If the private contractor has license then its not of that principle in any way. Libertarians of course disagree and many of them do not have consistent principles. This is where a libertarian would separate themselves from anarchist governments Its the idea that a state can raise a citizen army with the goal of achieving the minimum amount of force to protect life and property.
Ok...good explination of libertarianism diversity
In your opinion, give me a yes or no answer
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Should we privitazitize the armed services of the USA the way trump wants??
Political philosophers like Montesquieu, for example, have identified that perfect freedom leads to slavery. Thus the idea is that a maximin amount of liberty cannot be achieved by a transient and short lived freedom in a power vacuum. It is just like the windshield which has the basic principle to allow maximum vision. Its is less so than the naked eye in a perfect medium. However in the circumstance of an imperfect medium it fills the vacuum in such a way to maximize our vision. So too is every classical liberal idea for libertarian principles.
You do not seem to discriminate much between a neocon big da gubement privatization deal and the libertarian wing of the party. Trump has put together a lose confederation of platforms not so easy to manage. However whats interesting is that its based on ideas. The Democrats have stitched together racial demographics in a sort off idealistic monoculture held together by a manufactured enemy, the white patriarchy. So we seem to have a basic idea of swallowing our ideological differences over the common enemy of pure lunacy which is a hate based coalition that somehow must keep a Latino , a homosexual, a black, a Muslim and a fat lesbian in the same tent with little actual actionable things to do.
Thus the radicalization and contradictions between these two parties are self supporting. If the identity politics go away then so will the strange coalition on the other side. The Democrats actually going back to labor politics would rearrange things considerably.
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Ok...good explination of libertarianism diversity
In your opinion, give me a yes or no answer
...
Should we privitazitize the armed services of the USA the way trump wants??
gwynedd1:
No.
What's wrong with mr. Stossel's opinion then?
It creates a class system looking more like Sparta. Certainly the Spartans made fine warriors for what they utterly lacked in a good civilization. It also was based on rentierism as they all are.
It creates a class system looking more like Sparta. Certainly the Spartans made fine warriors for what they utterly lacked in a good civilization. It also was based on rentierism as they all are.
Don't you have a more simple and currently relevant explanation?
IE: using a corporate model while fighting warfare means the warfighter has an incentive to create more war...say bombings civillians or hitting a religious building would create more anger and vitriol thus ensuring more war and more money vs the government warfighter that gets paid either way and thus would rather have peace and a quick return home.
Don't you have a more simple and currently relevant explanation?
IE: using a corporate model while fighting warfare means the warfighter has an incentive to create more war...say bombings civillians or hitting a religious building would create more anger and vitriol thus ensuring more war and more money vs the government warfighter that gets paid either way and thus would rather have peace and a quick return home.
Well you could use a model in any time period were there are perverse incentives for prison and warfare. All you have to do is agree with a conservative on the profit motive of a well run prison system to demonstrate they are either idiots or in on the scam. The drive to widen their market should send a shiver of horror. There should never be for profit prisons or armies in any liberty loving society.
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