So discouraging, and embarrassing, the way Trump is all about money (accuse, Sanders)

[rbohm]

Originally Posted by RMESMH

I heard something about his having to keep $1, and can donate the rest.

if someone told you that, they are showing off how little they know. when trump took office, he tried to get the government to not pay him at all, but he was told that according to the law he had to be paid in the amount that was set down by law. he can do what ever he wants with his money, but he has to be paid according to the law.

Originally Posted by Redraven

I have been saying for most of my adult life that it is stupid for the U.S. to be giving money to people who hate us. It is also stupid for the U.S. to be the banker and the police force for much of the world.
We simply can not afford it!
There is a lot about trump that I do not like, but it is refreshing to finally have a President that apparently thinks as I do about those issues! It is good, IMO, to finally have somebody telling the rest of the world that the United States can not and will not continue to send them money and expend the lives of our young people for their benefit!

Originally Posted by Dbones

lmaolmaolmao. This is RICH! Leftist Socialists talking about how someone is all about money while they are ALL about taking other people's money and wanting free rides in life. Go away leeches.

the left is all about money, they just dont want to spend any of their own money to try ad solve problems

Originally Posted by Rakin

Countries love us as long as we give them huge piles of our cash.

Time to cut that crap out and Trumps calling it for what it is. We don't need welfare friends.

very true.

Originally Posted by Phil75230

Maybe that explains why so many more people will defend a "frat bro" who rapes a drunk girl. IIRC, even Harvey Weinstein seems to have his defenders.


Didn't Jesus himself say "It's easer for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of Heaven"?

the quote from jesus is being taken out of context here. it is basically saying that a rich man cant buy his way into heaven with money. there needs to be something more substantial than that. jesus was not against having money, he was against the greed that some would develop.


there were a number of rich people in the bible who did good works with their money. job for instance was a faithful servant of god, who was tested by losing all his fortune and family, and even having disease forced on him. and since he never lost his faith, he was rewarded by having everything he lost replaced and then some.


it isnt the money thats the problem, its what you do with it, and the love of it thats the problem.

[mortpes]

Almost all issues in the world revolve either directly or indirectly about money. And nothing is free. The USA has been the fool in so very many events in the past. Refreshing that someone finally has the guts to stand up for America.

[Ferd]

we really do have a strange thing taking place. my friends on the left are utterly discouraged by the way Trump negotiates, what he focuses on and how direct he is.


those of us on the right find it quite refreshing that someone in office stands up and actually says what we are all thinking.


I mean seriously we have a treaty that establishes the rules of NATO. that includes member nations spending at least 2% of GDP on defense. many of NATOs largest nations don't live up to their own declared obligation. When Trump stands up and actually calls them on it, its just terrible that he would focus on MONEY. I mean ITS GASTLY!!!


seriously? your mad about that? what is wrong with you?

[Milton Miteybad]

Originally Posted by LifeIsGood01

He's making a fortune, he doesn't need the few hundred grand the President gets paid, I bet he doesn't take it because if he did he would have to release his tax returns.

From whence did this preposterous notion arise? If Trump were collecting his presidential salary instead of donating it, he'd still be under the same obligation to release his tax returns he is now, which is to say none at all.

Because, as we all are aware, no legal obligation exists for any president to release any tax return, under any circumstances, whether they are collecting their salary or not.

[Clarallel]

Originally Posted by rebeldor

While Trump is a YUGE pile of garbage, there is nothing...NOTHING wrong with being all about money. In fact, acquiring more of it should be a never-ending process.

Capitalism has brought more people out of poverty than anything else in the history of mankind. Money is the ultimate goal of any successful person.

This is so sad.

You do realize that for a large chunk of the population, people have more human ultimate goals like a deeply fulfilling romantic life, or gratifying creative work, or doing some good in the world?

Originally Posted by Enigma777

Trump tells it like it is. He has no integrity and does not even pretend he has integrity. He almost seems proud that he has no integrity.

I just don't see how he has the nerve to yell at world leaders about not paying their debts, when Trump himself is famous for not paying his debts, loans, employees or even attorneys. How can anyone take his bullying BS seriously, when he's such a transparently hypocritical buffoon.

Perfect point about debts!

[desertdetroiter]

Originally Posted by Rakin

Countries love us as long as we give them huge piles of our cash.

Time to cut that crap out and Trumps calling it for what it is. We don't need welfare friends.

Of course we do. The United States doesn’t have a single friend that we don’t have to buy except for Canada.

Look, it’s not other nation’s fault that the United States is a dummy nation. They don’t force us to blow all of our money on dumb alliances. We do it because we’re stupid and needy. And to expect other nations to kiss our ass just because our feelings are hurt is pathetic. It ain’t gonna happen.

[Robert&Ripley]

Originally Posted by Enigma777

Trump tells it like it is. He has no integrity and does not even pretend he has integrity. He almost seems proud that he has no integrity.



That is called being 'short-sighted.' Trump is extremely short-sighted. He is like a child who has no sense of time. There is no future and no past -- just what Trump feels at the moment. If he had any sense of future consequences or implications, he wouldn't have had to declare bankruptcy or have had so many failed businesses.

I just don't see how he has the nerve to yell at world leaders about not paying their debts, when Trump himself is famous for not paying his debts, loans, employees or even attorneys. How can anyone take his bullying BS seriously, when he's such a transparently hypocritical buffoon.

Preach!

[Phil75230]

Originally Posted by Oklazona Bound

Dude Mexico awaits you with their newly crowned socialist leader. Start packing your bags. You live an easy American life with the goodies that capitalism created mostly by American capitalists then you point out things from two centuries ago? This is not the time of Upton Sinclair.

1. The goodies I enjoy are the result of a well-regulated capitalism (as an aside, if a "militia" had to be "well-regulated", then why not an economic system?

2. Having said 1, our consumer and labor protection laws are a joke compared to every other economically advanced nation. Seems to me that's a fair start toward devolving back to the time of Upton Sinclair.

Besides, about people on this board screaming about "too many regulations in our 'socialist America'", even about basic laws and making sure goods and services people buy and sell are safe to consume -- when I see so many people scream on this board this fervently, if not fanatically about this matter, then I think it IS safe to assume that some of us want to go back to the 19th Century.

Originally Posted by Oklazona Bound

Go to Mexico. I am sure their new leader will as quickly as possible dismantle all the horrible trappings of capitalism and replace it with socialized poverty. At first it will be good as the wealthy class of Mexico get stripped of their riches and foreign companies, especially ones based in America get looted. But once they have nothing left to loot that is when it will get interesting.

But go. Run for the border. I certainly don't like to see people unhappy with capitalism leading an unhappy life here.

And NOT stand here and fight for a better USA? Nah. In the long run, I'd rather fight for change at home (something I hear right-wingers say to "third world immigrants" a lot) than flee abroad. I can do this country, and the world, more good here than going over an invisible line requiring a passport or visa to cross.

[Phil75230]

Originally Posted by rbohm

the quote from jesus is being taken out of context here. it is basically saying that a rich man cant buy his way into heaven with money. there needs to be something more substantial than that. jesus was not against having money, he was against the greed that some would develop.


there were a number of rich people in the bible who did good works with their money. job for instance was a faithful servant of god, who was tested by losing all his fortune and family, and even having disease forced on him. and since he never lost his faith, he was rewarded by having everything he lost replaced and then some.


it isnt the money thats the problem, its what you do with it, and the love of it thats the problem.

Maybe that's not the best verse, perhaps. Even so, it's pretty safe to day that Trump's pretty greedy and he does some pretty crappy things with it (Trump Univ, putting his name on overvalued properties to trick investors into investing in bad deals - like a Trump hotel in Cabo, to name one).

And I agree not all wealthy people are going to be so callous and greedy about their wealth. Yet, Trump IS that bad kind of "rich guy". And that's just the monetary part of his problem. Even worse is the way he legitimizes degrading others - that kind of thing weakens cultural inhibitions brought about to prevent undue injury (physical, social, psychological, etc) to others.

[brownbagg]

this is one of the first president that was a business man instead of a lawyer. business is what he does, business is money. i notice a lot of people hate trump for just being trump. Yes he an a hole and I wish he shut up at time, but he been pretty good on the business side. Obama proved anybody can be president. make you wonder if the reason they hate trump isnt because he cant be controlled like the other had. Make you wonder if some of the hate is being paid to hate. He has done what he said he would during the campaign.