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Old 07-19-2018, 02:39 AM
 
Location: USA
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Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake View Post
The most I've been able to come up with is that Russia put up some ads on Facebook that didn't promote the lies and propaganda of the DNC, the NYT, WAPO, CNN and MSNBC. Those organizations are the only ones approved by the left to lie to the American people, to fabricate stories and to manipulate elections.
Pretty accurate. And some "bot" accounts and fake accounts. The thing is, what they promoted (BLM) was literal COINTEL from the DNC and George Soros. Go figure.


Not only did the DNC "collude" during the last election they sabotaged and stole from their base and damn near started a race war. Over an issue they didn't want to support in the first place.
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Old 07-19-2018, 04:01 AM
 
Location: Mount Airy, Maryland
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Too bad Obama will never admit he was wrong and backtrack on Russia

"You said Russia ... the 1980s, they're now calling to ask for their foreign policy back because, you know, the Cold War's been over for 20 years" -- Obama
Obama never said Russia was not a threat, he simply said Al Quada was a larger threat. And he was right, at the time they were.

That is hardly the same thing as Trump reacting to the backlash, even his pet network FOX trashed him for sucking up to Putin. So he sees the reaction and then trots out the worst lie of his career, and that's saying something, by claiming he meant to say "I can't see why it wouldn't be Russia..." after saying all along that he believed Putin.

You may buy his lies but most of us see it for what it is.
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Old 07-19-2018, 04:17 AM
 
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  • Stealing documents from Democratic Party officials and disseminating them publicly
  • Hacking into state election boards' computers across the country
  • Conducting massive pro-Trump propaganda efforts online
  • Creating fake grassroots organizations to oppose Clinton and boost Trump
  • Enticing Trump campaign officials with promises of documents that could damage Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton.
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Old 07-19-2018, 04:24 AM
 
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In a few sentences tell me how Russia allowed Donny to win. How did they force 400k people in Ohio and tens of thousands of people in other states to vote for the Don.

Be specific and clear and write in a few sentences.
At this point we dont know thus the Mueller investigation to find out if there was any foul play involved in the election.Personally i think the voting machines were rigged in trumps favor.
https://www.google.ca/search?source=....0.xHkmToV7pBo
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Old 07-19-2018, 04:37 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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They hacked and released information on one side of the election.
They provided the support of a army of online trolls and posters, along with a large amount of professional propaganda
They put money in the NRA that went to the GOP it appears.
All of this influenced votes.


And no-it didnt FORCE people. Thats a manipulative attempt to define the discussion. You are trying to be incredibly manipulative however by requiring people to be clear, and in a few sentences for what is a very complex topic. And your response will cover the complexities of the issues. You hope to win the argument by defining the battle ground, then ignoring your rules.
Supposedly.

The DNC never turned over its server to the FBI.
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Old 07-19-2018, 04:42 AM
 
Location: USA
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  • Stealing documents from Democratic Party officials and disseminating them publicly
  • Hacking into state election boards' computers across the country
  • Conducting massive pro-Trump propaganda efforts online
  • Creating fake grassroots organizations to oppose Clinton and boost Trump
  • Enticing Trump campaign officials with promises of documents that could damage Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton.
What did those documents reveal??

Was it. COLLUSION
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Old 07-19-2018, 05:27 AM
 
Location: AZ
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Originally Posted by LauraC View Post
Supposedly.

The DNC never turned over its server to the FBI.
It wasn’t a single server, it was hundreds of desktops and virtual servers, and there was plenty of evidence left behind by the Russian GRU.
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Old 07-19-2018, 05:31 AM
 
Location: *
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  • Stealing documents from Democratic Party officials and disseminating them publicly
  • Hacking into state election boards' computers across the country
  • Conducting massive pro-Trump propaganda efforts online
  • Creating fake grassroots organizations to oppose Clinton and boost Trump
  • Enticing Trump campaign officials with promises of documents that could damage Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton.
What you've described here ^ while accurate, is nothing new. It's the Russian intelligence agencies' 'disaggregation' & is a significant tactic in their bigger 'divide & conquer' strategy:

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...Disaggregation is the process by which the Russian intelligence agencies identify a social or economic split in a country, and then work to exacerbate it and create conflicts. These campaigns seek to exploit open systems such as freedom of the press, social media, and representative democracy, to introduce misinformation—which may not be convincing but is at least successful in muddying the waters and diminishing faith in the very concept of truth. ...
VLADIMIR PUTIN’S HACKING STRATEGY IS TO DIVIDE AND CONQUER—AND IT’S NOTHING NEW

https://www.newsweek.com/putin-hacki...r-ememy-534715

'Divide & conquer' is nothing new anywhere, it's a well known concept in the studies of power dynamics. A chronically fearful people are more easily divided ... & then more easily conquered.

Russia would've considered themselves 'successful in their endeavors no matter who won the recent election of POTUS.

They likely considered getting Mr. Trump as an added 'bonus' ... not only are the American people divided against themselves ...

Mr. Trump has helped them to divide the USA from the rest of its Western partners on the question of Russian policy.

Cui bono?
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Old 07-19-2018, 05:33 AM
 
Location: AZ
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What you've described here ^ while accurate, is nothing new. It's the Russian intelligence agencies' 'disaggregation' & is a significant tactic in their bigger 'divide & conquer' strategy:



VLADIMIR PUTIN’S HACKING STRATEGY IS TO DIVIDE AND CONQUER—AND IT’S NOTHING NEW

https://www.newsweek.com/putin-hacki...r-ememy-534715

'Divide & conquer' is nothing new anywhere, it's a well known concept in the studies of power dynamics. A chronically fearful people are more easily divided ... & then more easily conquered.

Russia would've considered themselves 'successful no matter who won the recent election of POTUS.

They likely considered getting Mr. Trump as an added 'bonus' because not only are the American people divided against themselves ...

Mr. Trump has helped them to divide dthe USA from the rest of its Western partners on the question of Russia policy.

Cui bono?
Posting an accurate, factual list, is now considered divisional? What does the link have to do with that claim?
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Old 07-19-2018, 05:39 AM
 
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not only can they not name what they did, they can't anything Trump himself should be specifically doing


the Russians used Facebook ads? It's up to Facebook to decide if they want to censor the Russians


the Russians hacked the DNC. It is up to the DNC to get better cyber security and not fall for scams that give out their password
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