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Old 07-17-2018, 01:54 PM
 
Location: London
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Nooooooo lol, the problem is they expect everyone else to change, not them. Try to tell a liberal that their financial woes are because of their own actions? Tell them the changes they can make for a better life. They'll look at you like a deer in headlights. In other words, everyone else is to blame, not them. So how can life change for them if they won't even admit they are the problem let alone make the necessary changes?

Or how about Hillary, she thought blue states were in the bag but when proven wrong she's gone on a blame everyone else world tour. She never looked at herself as the problem.
I think you're right for the most part, but I also know people who've had their lives ruined by identity theft or a sudden serious illness at a young age.

But yeah, I have cousins who are taking out student loans to go to graduate art school (private ones too), and think their six figure loans not being forgiven is a sign of a flawed society.

As someone who went to a public university and majored in a boring practical field (though it's a STEM degree, and I personally liked it), and worked my way through because I'm terrified of debt... I've got some choice words for them. lol
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Old 07-17-2018, 01:56 PM
 
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I would love for the government to give you white supremacists some land for a country since you think you are so great. We will give you something with a port so you can trade withe Russia and the few other countries who will trade with you and seal the border so you don't have to worry about being infested with non-whites and we don't have to have you clowns amongst us.

We will take away every medicine, product, invention and technological advance ever made by a non-white since you don't see or acknowledge their value, and you all can live in your trailer utopia. You will quickly realize just how unspecial you are, and how much minorities contribute. You all will be trying to get around our wall after a day or two and and then we will have to separate you and your kids because you all are known for terrorism and human trafficking
Why give them a port ? Let then lease it
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Old 07-17-2018, 01:57 PM
 
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I think you're right for the most part, but I also know people who've had their lives ruined by identity theft or a sudden serious illness at a young age.

But yeah, I have cousins who are taking out student loans to go to graduate art school (private ones too), and think their six figure loans not being forgiven is a sign of a flawed society.

As someone who went to a public university and majored in a boring practical field (though it's a STEM degree, and I personally liked it), and worked my way through because I'm terrified of debt... I've got some choice words for them. lol
Yep, while I paid off my school debt there are people who think it's ok to sign an "agreement" to pay backed the money they borrow and then think they shouldn't have to abide by the agreement when it's time for them to pay it back as agreed. I wonder if it were the other way around how they feel that they would not be paid back.
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Old 07-17-2018, 02:00 PM
 
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And even when they took the polls in other countries, conservatives were much happier.
In 2006, PEW showed republicnas at 47% very happy while only 28% of democrats were.
And every survey since shows conservatives more happy.


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This is not hard to understand, given that most liberals by their very nature are malcontents. Thus even if you give them what they ask for, they always want more, and want to change everything. Tradition and cultural norms get under their skin, as many are rebels without a cause.
Conservatives tend to be more content and are pragmatic enough to know you cannot nor should you try to change the world.

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Ignorance is bliss.
It is easy to try and deflect or put down those who have differing points of view. However it is not ignorance that make conservatives and moderates more content with life. Rather they are not wired to be SJW's in an effort to give their lives meaning.

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Old 07-17-2018, 02:07 PM
 
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Repeated studies have shown republicans are much more charitable and giving than democrats.
Because a person claims to be more charitable ? Any hard evidence or self reporting ? Cause a lot of conservatives can be self righteous hypocrites who claim they give more then they do. Heck, many claim to give more on their taxes then they actually do. I dont believe the studies unless the got receipts.
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Old 07-17-2018, 02:12 PM
 
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Because a person claims to be more charitable ? Any hard evidence or self reporting ? Cause a lot of conservatives can be self righteous hypocrites who claim they give more then they do. Heck, many claim to give more on their taxes then they actually do. I dont believe the studies unless the got receipts.
The best thing anyone can do for society is to be able to provide for oneself and their family. Only then can they give to others.

The problem is, liberals think they know how much and how often people can give and then want to dictate on what they perceive to be true (without knowing facts and situations) many times they are wrong. They end up hurting people / families.
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Old 07-17-2018, 02:12 PM
 
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DH and I were at a meeting after which we were seated at a table with people we didn't know. It soon became apparent that we were seated with liberals, and Obama supporters. They talked about the poor in a very demeaning, condescending way, each trying to impress the others, acting as if the poor could not survive if it had been for them. It was gag worthy. We didn't let on that we were conservatives and certainly didn't feel the need to impress them. I think they thought they impressed us lol, asking us to sit with them the next evening. The next night we opted to go elsewhere for dinner.
Im sure they said nothing of the sort Petch. If you listen like you read all your reactions are filtered thru a ideological hyperconservative set of ears. They probably just said " hello we are from NYC " and your mind attributed to them beliefs they never expressed.
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Old 07-17-2018, 02:13 PM
 
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The best thing anyone can do for society is to be able to provide for oneself and their family. Only then can they give to others.

The problem is, liberals think they know how much and how often people can give and then want to dictate on their perceived premise.
Problem is you never respond to what anyone actually addresses to you.
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Old 07-17-2018, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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Winston Churchill wrote that “Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy. Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.”
As a matter of fact, no, Churchill didn't write that, not as quoted.

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It is more or less correct, but it’s a truncated version of two separate comments, run together to make them more interesting (in the eye of the drafter).

“Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy.” —Perth, Scotland, 28 May 1948, in Churchill, Europe Unite: Speeches 1947 & 1948 (London: Cassell, 1950), 347.

The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings. The inherent virtue of Socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.” —House of Commons, 22 October 1945
https://richardlangworth.com/socialism

Note the bolded.

What's clear is that a lot of these so-called happy Republicans are people who were born on third base and go through life thinking they hit a triple.

But for such happy people, you all sure spend a whole lot of time moaning and groaning about the supposedly unhappy left.
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Old 07-17-2018, 02:20 PM
 
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Im sure they said nothing of the sort Petch. If you listen like you read all your reactions are filtered thru a ideological hyperconservative set of ears. They probably just said " hello we are from NYC " and your mind attributed to them beliefs they never expressed.
LOL, so my experienced doesn't match up with your ideology so automatically I'm a liar? LOL pfft liberal land. Get this,.. I didn't enjoy the company of people trying to impress each other while being condescending toward blacks and the poor. They were full of themselves and that's not attractive.

Do you ever listen to yourselves, ever?
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