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Old 08-06-2018, 10:39 AM
 
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Some of the posts on this thread are truly frightening, it seems many people on CD would be much happier living under a very strict dictatorship or a monarchy.

I have a feeling its these kind of people that would have been calling for those responsible for stealing and destroying English tea in the Boston tea party, to be caught and prosecuted to the fullest extent!!!

 
Old 08-06-2018, 10:42 AM
 
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Some of the posts on this thread are truly frightening, it seems many people on CD would be much happier living under a very strict dictatorship or a monarchy.

I have a feeling its these kind of people that would have been calling for those responsible for stealing and destroying English tea in the Boston tea party, to be caught and prosecuted to the fullest extent!!!



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Old 08-06-2018, 10:42 AM
 
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As I said, the claims that Chicago is nothing but a crime ridden cesspool are a bore & a lie. Try visiting somewhere before making outlandish claims. It also helps if you have friends who actually live there who can give a better picture of the city than some yahoo keyboard commando.
Because parts of it are, just because you didnt see them doesnt mean they dont exist.
I am from Chicago, I have family there, I return often.
 
Old 08-06-2018, 10:46 AM
 
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Because parts of it are, just because you didnt see them doesnt mean they dont exist.
I am from Chicago, I have family there, I return often.
Yeah, key word being “parts”. Just like every other larger city that has crime in “parts” of it. The scare tactics of the right trying to paint the entire city of Chicago is a joke.
 
Old 08-06-2018, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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In less than 7 hours, 40 shot, 4 fatally as violence rips Chicago

I hope they find each and every one of these "SAVAGES" only a savage would go around shooting people and targeting innocent people with random wild fire.

We need to institute the penalty of "firing squad" execution for these "killers on the wild".... No need to waste money on incarceration.

Sounds like they will end up with National Guards on the Streets of Chicago. If you are caught out with a gun, then you will get the penalty of being arrested, if you don't have a permit to carry one.

No need to scream and whine when fact is, steps have to be taken to stop the killing and bust up the gangs. It should be made illegal to be a member of a gang!!!! consider it a "urban terrorist organization"... just by ones membership within, and aiding and abetting a terrorist organization for those who hang around with gang members.

Across America, there needs to a "Anti-Gang" measure fully enforced!!!! Designated as "Urban Terrorist", and anyone being a member of such organizations, get a mandatory sentence, that includes "Solitary Confinement", so they can't re-organize inside the Prison!!!!

If they are ever released they cannot go back to the community they came from!!! If they are found to affiliate with any "terrorist gang" in any other place, they are given straight life, no parole.

This means "All Gangs", including the Mafiso Organizations as well. The police know whom they are.

Everyone is to pay for street based security cameras, or adding 1-2 cent to the sales tax to pay for it. Security is not free. Its a small fee, to stop the gangs, stop the abduction of women, and the abduction of children, stop the break in and robberies, These cameras should have face recognition software in the monitoring station. If you are "a legit person", then you have nothing to worry about, if you have malicious and criminal intent, then you should worry because you will be identified and caught.
This will save people in cities and in rural communities. This will tremendously curb the violence in the streets, and the abduction of women and children who are going about their daily lives.

Ignorance promotes the necessity of surveillance, there is no community in America that is 'immune from crime and violence".... Anyone with a false sense of security, is not paying attention to the "crazed mindsets of people", whether they are from an monetary affluent community, or from a dire poor community, no from a rural country town, or a rural farm community.

The human being is and has a long history of violence and criminal conduct. We can't go on assuming we are in some place of "exemption". It is not confined to any "skin color", nor is it confined to any race or ethnicity group.

I'd pay for community security without hesitation, even if they said the fee was $5 a month. I think that is not an unreasonable amount to clean up the criminal minded, the rapist minded, and the killer minded that is present in "every community". I'd pay also for a nominal fee for the cost it would take to build fences, around schools with quality security cameras and and trespass alarms. We might not be able to stop everything, but we sure can stop a great deal more than we are doing today.

I don't care for Trump and his policies, but I would not oppose the actions by him to push the bill to install these cameras in communities and business and shopping districts and build these fences around our schools. I don't care for Sessions, but I would not oppose him labeling gangs as 'Urban Terrorist" and begin to arrest anyone found to be a member of a "gang" (Urban Terrorist Group), this includes the Neo Nazi's, the white supremacist, the para military groups, and any other kind of vile promoting group that exist.
You can thank Barack H. Obamna for a lot of this.
 
Old 08-06-2018, 10:47 AM
 
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You can thank Barack H. Obamna for a lot of this.
How so? Be specific with factual information.
 
Old 08-06-2018, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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You do realize the solutions don't start with Trump right? You realize that good old Mayor Emanuel is where the buck starts and stops for this debacle right?
What's his game and why is HE allowing this to continue? Why hasn't HE asked for help from some of the people that have tons of experience cleaning up large cities? Why hasn't HE activated the Guard to help? Why is HE pushing genocide against people by allowing the mass slaughter of all these Black people and why?
I'd have expected people with pitchforks and torches to be on the steps of his palace by now, why is this not the case? Why isn't there a groundswell of "Impeach Emanuel" by now?

How's about instead of just tossing crap at the President you actually start where the buck stops first...
Well, let’s see now. Emanuel brought in Garry McCarthy, veteranof NYPD and Newark. Violent crime declined. Then it was discovered CPD changed the methodology of counting homicides. Financial settlements with victims of Police violence increased.

Emanuel fired McCarthy after a court order forced the release of the dash can video of the shooting of Labuan McDonald. The video contradicted the official story. It was not self defense when an officer pumped 16 shots into a kid. The officer was charged with first degree murder and awaits trial.

Mc Carthy recently announced he is running for mayor. Only in Chicago...

Eddie Johnson replaced McCarthy. He was raised in Chicago projects and is all about reestablishing trust between the black community and CPD- getting officers out of their cars and visible on the streets.

This morning Emanuel made an emotional plea to people to come forward, be a good neighbor and identify the shooters responsible for the carnage , this weekend. Good luck with that.

It is not possible that no one knows or saw anything given the number of shootings this weekend.

It’s easier to blame the mayor and superintendent than give up cover of the shooters.

Only the Governor or POTUS can call in the National Guard. The Governor has declined to do so saying it would exacerbate the situation. He may be right. The NG do not have Police powers. While the NG might be effective in helping a police department regain control in a riot, the situation in Chicago is very different.
 
Old 08-06-2018, 10:55 AM
 
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Old 08-06-2018, 10:56 AM
 
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Yeah, key word being “parts”. Just like every other larger city that has crime in “parts” of it. The scare tactics of the right trying to paint the entire city of Chicago is a joke.
On the other side of that coin we have your head in the sand attitude.
 
Old 08-06-2018, 10:58 AM
 
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On the other side of that coin we have your head in the sand attitude.
No actually, we don’t.
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