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Old 08-19-2018, 05:10 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Originally Posted by Loveshiscountry View Post
Says the person who didn't criticize Obamas tariffs. Strange how tariffs matter now.

Trump is trying to force other countries hand. Don't know if it will work. He needs to get rid of all tariffs.
Obama didn't start trade wars with a dozen countries at the same time.


Tell it to the farmers.

 
Old 08-20-2018, 06:10 AM
 
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Originally Posted by craigiri View Post
According to fake news, maybe......but reality is a different story (as always)....

For most Americans, real wages have barely budged for decades | Pew Research Center

https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikshe.../#507807a54fd1

Most Americans

"The consumer price index was 2.8 percent higher this past pay May than it was the same month one year ago; that increase leaves real average hourly earnings for production and nonsupervisory workers (a.k.a. the vast majority of workers) 0.1 percent lower than they were 12 months ago."

So, lower....is now vastly higher. We get it.

"but reality is a different story (as always)...."


You talk about "reality" and use Pew Research?
 
Old 08-20-2018, 06:13 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Loveshiscountry View Post
Says the person who didn't criticize Obamas tariffs. Strange how tariffs matter now.

Trump is trying to force other countries hand. Don't know if it will work. He needs to get rid of all tariffs.

The same people who NEVER complained 1 IOTA about what Obama or the dem controlled Senate did NOW complain when Trump and the repubs in the Senate do the same thing.


What hypocrites!
 
Old 08-20-2018, 06:39 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Listener2307 View Post
OK, but the statements from your source is awfully weak:
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Meanwhile, 3 million jobs have been added since Trump took office. Doesn't seem to me that tariffs are all the horror that so many people say.
?????? The tariffs came into effect in July 2018.....

How can you come to the conclusion that the tariffs haven't impacted jobs when you are quoting jobs added BEFORE tariffs -- lol?

This is hilarious.

And job growth has been positive for 94 months......of which only one month has had the tariffs.
 
Old 08-20-2018, 06:58 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by Ringo1 View Post
Obama didn't start trade wars with a dozen countries at the same time. .
You mean Mr Transparent who tried to pass TPP in private?
It's about tariifs. Keep trying though.


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Tell it to the farmers.
And? So?
 
Old 08-20-2018, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by Quick Enough View Post
"but reality is a different story (as always)...."


You talk about "reality" and use Pew Research?
Sure the PEW research doesn’t compare to your mystery source.
 
Old 08-20-2018, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Originally Posted by craigiri View Post
If I had any idea what you were trying to say, I'd add my piece.....

Are you saying that Trump didn't bring Wall Street instantly into the WH and do their bidding? Are you saying that he doesn't offer to enrich anyone and everyone he comes in contact with (in exchange for money for him, or Jared, or something else for his properties or family)???

Are you really suggesting a failed con man is akin to Ross Perot?

I don't get it - you are all over the place here, especially acting as if Trump is somehow a man of the people and has interest in anything other than organized crime and tax cheating.

Not at all surprising that you don't get it.

It's not about the person of Donald J. Trump and never has been.

It's about me and people like me that work for a living having no interest in being low-wage tax slaves in your state-centric dream world.
 
Old 08-20-2018, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Originally Posted by Goodnight View Post
Who do you think was rewarded most by tax cuts and inheritance tax reform.
Are you saying Jeb or Hillary would have increased the top rate on individuals?
 
Old 08-20-2018, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Originally Posted by chad3 View Post
Hillary Clinton wanted to raise taxes on the richest 0.1% of Americans.
https://money.cnn.com/2016/08/11/pf/...xes/index.html

Hillary also wanted to put a 65% inheritance tax on the richest 0.1% of Americans.
Hillary Clinton Wants a 65% Inheritance Tax on Billionaire Estates | Fortune


The Trump tax cuts increased workers after-tax income by 0.8%, and increased the richest 0.1% of Americans after-tax income by 14.2%.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/janetno.../#49bf7f565b9d

And Donald Trump abolished the Estate Tax. This for example gave billionaire Donald Trumps own children an extra $2.8 billion dollars.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/th...ids-2017-09-28


Who do you believe the 0.1% donor class would rather do business with, someone who will raise their tax rates and tax their children's inheritance at 65%, or someone who will give them huge tax cuts and give their children billions of dollars?


I specifically mentioned Renaissance Technologies and Goldman-Sachs in my post because Hillary receives so much financial support from both organizations.

Together they have robbed working Americans of trillions by engineering bubbles and used exclusive technology to skim the stock markets where Americans invest for their retirements.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...achine-195229/

https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/c...s?id=N00000019

As for the Democrat's often promised tax increase on the wealthy, when have they ever done anything except talk about it while pointing fingers at Republicans?


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Old 08-20-2018, 10:37 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Originally Posted by Ringo1 View Post
Obama didn't start trade wars with a dozen countries at the same time.


Tell it to the farmers.
I'm a farmer. I've been told what to do by the Govt for 30 years. I get paid to disc under crops every few years. I don't know any farmers hurting unless it's from natural disaster like a hail storm or fire.
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