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Old 08-18-2018, 10:16 PM
 
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At retirement age in America there is medicare. Which is free unless you get a donut policy.


You pay a lot more than $37.50 a month. The government just takes the rest before you get it in the form of taxes.
Medicare isn't free unless you are poor.
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Old 08-18-2018, 10:17 PM
 
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HC costs increase everywhere. Medical inflation.

If only the US towed the line in 1955 where a diagnosis of most serious disease was a near certain death sentence.
The US is in another stratosphere compared to the rest of the developed world when it comes to medical inflation though, which leads us to spend 18% of GDP on something that should really just cost 12% at most, even with everyone getting the care they need.
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Old 08-18-2018, 10:18 PM
 
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EMTALA is now 32 years old. It requires all hospital ERs to stabilize emergency patients regardless of ability to pay. Speculation on my part subsidizing hospitals/ residencies go hand in hand.

Prior to this law it was possible for an ER to decline or refer a patient to a county hospital, regardless of distance or capacity . Early and/ or inappropriate discharges were common when anticipated treatment costs were more than a hospital was willing to absorb.
EMTALA only applies to hospitals accepting Medicare. And having appropriate ER facilities and staff.
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Old 08-18-2018, 10:31 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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At retirement age in America there is medicare. Which is free unless you get a donut policy.


You pay a lot more than $37.50 a month. The government just takes the rest before you get it in the form of taxes.
Taxes in BC. are pretty much the same as the US, so why don't you have universal health care? Could it be because your politicians squander so much of your money?
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Old 08-18-2018, 11:47 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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The government doesn't artificially limit the number of mechanics, electricians, etc either like it does with doctors.
It's actually the AMA (a private group), to a large extent, that artificially limits the number of doctors.
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Old 08-19-2018, 12:08 AM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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It's actually the AMA (a private group), to a large extent, that artificially limits the number of doctors.
The academic requirements for medical school are very high. As they should be. You don't make the grades (all As) in the set of required college courses as well as having a high gpa in total, you don't go to med school. Plus you have to pass a very difficult qualifying exam (MCAT).
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Old 08-19-2018, 02:39 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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Did anybody read about the English Health care system this year? They had to cancel 25,000 surgeries to handle the flu. The normal wait to see a physician is four hours. The Times are worst since 2004 When they started keeping records
The flu epidemic also effected hospitals in the US and across the world and the fact that 25,000 non uregent surgeries were rescheduled was perfectly understandable.

As for the 4 hour wait that wasn't to see a doctor it was for not urgent cases at what Americans call ER but which we call A&E. Whilst there are also a number of NHS Major Trauma Centres which specialise in the most serious emergency treatment and which all have helipads.

The NHS is trying to cut such waiting times by more minor injuries clinics and walk in centres, whilst a funding increase will also help reduce waiting lists.

When to visit an urgent care centre (walk-in centre or minor injury unit)

Major Trauma Centres in England

NHS funding: Theresa May unveils £20bn boost - BBC News

In terms of medicare for all, that is more similar to the Australian System than the British Health System.

Health care in Australia - Wikipedia

As for so called death panels they are a myth, indeed you are more likely to be turned down by a profit hungry insurance company due to it's small print.
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Old 08-19-2018, 03:08 AM
 
Location: Here and now.
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I would imagine that with today's technology parents have a pretty good idea if their unborn child will be disabled or not. If someone decides to have the child anyways is that not their responsibility to pay for the child's medical care?
I don't want to derail this thread, but a lot of the people who oppose UHC also oppose abortion.
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Old 08-19-2018, 03:16 AM
 
Location: Here and now.
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I’m pushing sixty and I have no medical bills. I eat what I want and my quarterly blood work is normal that I pay out of pocket. I pass my aviation medical with flying colours, my mother is 84 and still has all her marbles. I don’t have anything to worry about.
Yet.

Would Lazarus get scraps at your table?
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Old 08-19-2018, 05:20 AM
 
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It's actually the AMA (a private group), to a large extent, that artificially limits the number of doctors.
The AMA by itself is powerless, therefore it lobbies congress to enact laws in its favor.
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