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View Poll Results: Can a sitting president be indicted?
Yes 84 63.64%
No 48 36.36%
Voters: 132. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-21-2018, 09:49 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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"can"? You'd better pray to the God in Who you don't believe that you never find out. Because I can assure you that despite what daydreams you may entertain in your drug-addled tissue that laughingly passes for your "brain", you will NOT like the way it turns out.
Damn, man. Lighten up.

You’re scaring the kids.
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Old 08-21-2018, 09:52 PM
 
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"can"? You'd better pray to the God in Who you don't believe that you never find out. Because I can assure you that despite what daydreams you may entertain in your drug-addled tissue that laughingly passes for your "brain", you will NOT like the way it turns out.
Is that a yes?
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Old 08-21-2018, 10:28 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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There’s a debate as to whether a sitting president can be indicted for crimes. I’d say a sitting president can be indicted, otherwise the framers would have specifically stated that he can’t be, which they didn’t.

There is no evidence in either the text nor from the Constitutional Convention of any intent to create immunity for a president from indictment,

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-as-president/
I am not sure...not a lawyer


but being a historian, I have never seen a POTUS be criminally indicted

there have only been two impeachments for "high crimes and misdemeanors" and while the House does indict (kinda like a grand jury), it is the Senate that convicts, and both of those impeachments (A. Johnson, and B. Clinton) were acquitted in the Senate

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At the federal level, Article I, Section 2, Clause 5 of the Constitution grants to the House of Representatives "the sole power of impeachment", and Article I, Section 3, Clause 6 grants to the Senate "the sole Power to try all Impeachments".

now the question of could a POTUS be convicted and go to jail...that is the real question
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Old 08-21-2018, 10:33 PM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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No public official is above the law. We should all agree on that.
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Old 08-21-2018, 10:35 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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We don't know yet and that's a Supreme Court thing.

I was listening to a podcast pertaining to this matter and it seems the brett kavanaugh's privy to the idea that a sitting President should not be indicted. Kavanaugh's history goes back to the Bush days and 9-11 and that drove some of his decision making at the time.

It's probably part of the reason why Trump chose him.


But we won't know until it happens.

The poll question isn't really a good question because it states the options as fact instead of opinion...
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Old 08-21-2018, 10:40 PM
 
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If a sitting POTUS can be indicted, can a standing POTUS be indicted?
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Old 08-21-2018, 10:58 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Yes. I know this because many very smart Rs told me so more than 20 years ago. They wouldn't be mistaken, now would they?

(Snark aside, here's an interesting article on the subject - https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...ctment/560957/)
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Old 08-21-2018, 11:02 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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There’s a debate as to whether a sitting president can be indicted for crimes. I’d say a sitting president can be indicted, otherwise the framers would have specifically stated that he can’t be, which they didn’t.

There is no evidence in either the text nor from the Constitutional Convention of any intent to create immunity for a president from indictment,

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-as-president/
Everyone voting yes is wrong. The only remedy is impeachment by Congress, otherwise, no indicting a sitting US President. Otherwise, you would always have a Sheriff of a hamlet opposing the party of the President arresting him for made up crimes (such as Russian collusion in the current case)
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Old 08-21-2018, 11:14 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Can a sitting president be indicted?


As I recall, higher-up lawmakers can't be indicted or prosecuted for what they do in office. They can be impeached, tried, and removed from office (or lose an election such as a recall). Only then can they be indicted and charged.

Sorry to disappoint you slavering lefties. It ain't gonna happen. Normal people (that's the large majority of the American populace) have NO desire to see Trump impeached and removed. He's doing too good a job of blocking and frustrating Democrat officeholders, and upholding the Constitution for a change. That's what they voted him into the Presidency for.
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Old 08-22-2018, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Chicago area
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Everyone voting yes is wrong. The only remedy is impeachment by Congress, otherwise, no indicting a sitting US President. Otherwise, you would always have a Sheriff of a hamlet opposing the party of the President arresting him for made up crimes (such as Russian collusion in the current case)



I think you might be right about that. A sitting president can be an unindicted co-conspirator. A sitting president must be impeached first and indicted after leaving office unless being pardoned by his replacement. (I'm sure Pence will pardon Trump leaving him a lame duct president for two years.)



Russian collusion remains to be seen and I'm sure Mueller knows the answer. So does Cohen and he's singing like a canary.
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