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Kavanaugh is a flawed candidate now. Cut bait and start over.
The left was NEVER going to support anyone Donald Trump nominated. It just happened to be Kavanaugh that got burned at the stake.
As for his temperament, it's easy to for anyone to sit there and say they would've reacted differently, but I don't blame him a bit. I would've done the same.
The left and the media have crucified this guy without a shred of evidence, destroyed his reputation, and threatened his family based on the word of one unstable woman that can't remember what she had for breakfast, much less something that happened 36 years ago.
If that's all it takes to ruin a man then we are all in deep trouble.
All the screeching about Brett Kavanaugh being innocent and Ford being a liar (when Kavanaugh himself has already been caught in several lies) is nothing but white male privilege rising up in indignant outrage that anyone should question that privilege. Kavanaugh's unhinged, partisan and bizarre belligerence was the behavior of a predator backed against a wall. If the situation had been reversed and Kavanaugh had conducted himself with quiet dignity (as Ford did), while Ford had come out yelling about Republican conspiracy theories and full of belligerence and hostility, Kavanaugh's supporters would have immediately labeled her behavior insane ravings. Now, they are actually claiming that Ford mistook someone else for Kavanaugh. They are actually trying to gaslight her. Appalling, not to mention an utterly absurd move on the part of desperate old white men.
Further, the maniacal claims that the Democrats are "evil" or dishonest are nothing more than right-wing projections of GOP tactics. It was the GOP who denied Obama the pick of a Supreme Court Justice, which no Congress in history has ever done. And the right wing response to this--"Elections have consequences"--is bizarre. Yes, elections have consequences, one of which is that an elected sitting President has the right to nominate a Supreme Court candidate for a hearing. To deny him that right was the most blatant, dirty move imaginable. And yet now the right wing is calling "foul"? People are sick of this bull.
The bolded is not true.
That's exactly how he acted on the Fox interview with his wife.
The left criticized him and said he showed no emotion, no anger, no righteous indignation at being falsely accused blah....blah...….blah. The leftist talking heads couldn't spit the new talking points out fast enough.
It doesn't matter what Kavanaugh says...….it never did.
You know, we all sift through this stuff from our own perspectives and our life events shape our perspectives.
I was violently raped - no drugs or alcohol or party involved - by someone I thought was a casual friend when I was a teenager. I reported this event to the police. I developed PTSD. I went to counseling. I moved past it. It's not my favorite chapter in my life but it happened and I refuse to let that one hour of my life define who I am for the rest of my life.
I have a bevy of female cousins who are all around my same age. We have all the same uncles and grandfathers - only the titles change a bit between all of us. We all spent many summers around these same men, one of whom is my father by the way. I look back on these times as very happy times in my life. We were an affluent family by the way, just to throw that in. Without exception, my cousins and I grew up in at LEAST upper middle class families - several (not me) grew up in wealthy families. Note - my dad eschewed the family business (movies and theaters) and instead joined the military, so out of all these cousins, I was the most "middle class" - my dad didn't start his own business and become fairly wealthy till I was out of high school, but still - my point is that none of us grew up poor, and we all grew up with some level of affluence and comfort. I attended public schools most of my life, but nearly all my cousins attended private schools.
Anyway, as luck would have it, almost every single one of my cousins ended up as liberals, some very vocal liberals. In fact, at least one of them has "unfriended me" on social media because though I don't post political stuff on social media, she knows that I am a Christian and that my husband works in the oil and gas industry, and that we are comfortably upper middle class (she has cut off all ties with all of her immediate family and is now on 100 percent disability and a fixed income). So these elements of my life are damning enough in her book for her to "unfriend me" and block me. So much for tolerance, but I digress. Anyway, back to all the girl cousins. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE ONES WHO ARE NOW LIBERALS HAS ACCUSED VARIOUS UNCLES/GRANDFATHERS/ETC OF SEXUALLY ABUSING THEM WHEN THEY WERE KIDS. ONE OF THEM EVEN ACCUSED MY DAD OF "MAKING A PASS AT HER" ONCE WHEN SHE WAS IN COLLEGE. Now, keep in mind that I know all of these people, some of them very very well. I was a cute kid, same general age as all my girl cousins (we were all born within three years of each other), hung out every summer (this is the time period they claim to have been sexually abused), and get this - I was never treated inappropriately by ANY of the men in question. Not only that, I simply cannot imagine my dad ever "making a pass" at any of these young women - but especially the one in question, because I have known both of them my entire life and my dad has NEVER behaved inappropriately with any woman to my knowledge. This is actually a pretty serious accusation she leveled at my dad, and I remember when she did it, and how mad both my parents got at this accusation. This was when she was on a tear accusing everyone in the family, and my dad was talking with her and mentioned that as a young man (he was about 20 years older than her) he thought he would have picked up on at least some of this behavior from all these loved ones, and that's when she accused him of complicity as well.
Now all of these cousins continually bring up how they endured sexual abuse from the men in our family - serious, serious charges - and I've yet to see a smidgen of evidence of this. Talk about smearing someone's reputation (and they're all dead now so no one can defend themselves). It's like a huge black smear on our family - and honestly, honestly, I NEVER SAW A BIT OF IT.
I asked my husband yesterday, "What was I - chopped liver? None of my uncles ever tried to mess with ME!" OK, bad joke but come on - you'd think that somewhere along the way, I would have noticed SOMETHING.
I'll tell you something even more enlightening. We had a huge family reunion at "the old homestead" one year. I was about 12 or 13, as were my cousins. At night, since there were so many people there, the women slept in one big bedroom (it had three beds in it) and the men were sort of scattered all over the house in other bedrooms and on sofas, pallets on the floor, etc. I remember I was all wadded up in a bed with about three other girl cousins and I simply couldn't sleep. I decided I had to get out of that bed and that room, so I slipped out and tried to find my dad - I thought he was sleeping on a pallet and I was going to lay down next to him to get out of that stuffy room and hot bed. So I thought I'd found him, and I crawled under the covers behind this person and snuggled up against their back - and it was my UNCLE instead - the uncle that later on several of my cousins accused of sexual assault (after he was dead). It took me a couple of moments to realize it wasn't my dad. My uncle, who I woke up, didn't do a thing to me other than say, "Your dad is over there." Now, I was embarrassed, but I was certainly not sexually assaulted.
All these accusations by various cousins over the past few years has really been surprising to me. By the way, the only other girl cousin our age who doesn't claim that family members sexually assaulted her during those years is another Christian and a conservative. I just think that's interesting.
So the point of your post (aside from the fact that your uncle was hardly going to abuse you--if he was an abuser--while your Dad was in the same room): Liberals are mean and highly suspect liars, while conservative Christians are truth-tellers. Got it.
Well, I am very sorry all of that happened to you. You sound like a strong, amazing person.
Ehh, thanks, but I just want to be a happy, peaceful person and I think that takes some work - some people more than others.
I had to forgive my rapist but it was harder to forgive myself oddly enough. I was able to do both, which is why I'm able to talk about it, think about it, put it all in perspective. It happened, but I refuse to let it define my life.
All the screeching about Brett Kavanaugh being innocent and Ford being a liar
Well where are you going to go when right out of the gate, very first thing, the accuser's witnesses all say they are not witnesses...
..and her girlfriend, Keyser, who Ford claimed was at the party and knows Kavanaugh....takes it to the next level and says she doesn't even know Kavanaugh
Passion? He was belligerent, aggressive, bullying, attacking those interviewing him & so on.
How does that make him fit for the job?
He was protecting his name, being aggressive, does not make you a bully. He was not attacking those interviewing him, he was standing up for his name and what he has accomplished over the many years as being a judge.....even when nobody cared he was on the 2nd highest court in the United States.....
Did you care back then? It's still a life time appointment....
EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE ONES WHO ARE NOW LIBERALS HAS ACCUSED VARIOUS UNCLES/GRANDFATHERS/ETC OF SEXUALLY ABUSING THEM WHEN THEY WERE KIDS. ONE OF THEM EVEN ACCUSED MY DAD OF "MAKING A PASS AT HER" ONCE WHEN SHE WAS IN COLLEGE. Now, keep in mind that I know all of these people, some of them very very well. I was a cute kid, same general age as all my girl cousins (we were all born within three years of each other), hung out every summer (this is the time period they claim to have been sexually abused), and get this - I was never treated inappropriately by ANY of the men in question.
Yes, it is a sad fact that women do lie about sexual abuse, assault and rape. That is not to say that these things are not horrible when they do occur.
However, this is why we need the presumption of innocence and due process when such allegations are made.
The chart speaks volumes about the evasion techniques used by Brett Kavanaugh.
Nice work. Will look at this more closely when time permits.
At this point it seems clear that Mr. Kavanaugh spent (too much) time training & taking tips from Mr. Trump. Sheeesh. What a mistake. Mr. Trump is his own worst enemy & now ...
It has taught us that when the demoncrats are not in power. They will do any means possible to push their whacked out socialist agenda. They have no morals, no standards, and have no platform. So they result to this.
Resort to what? There is zero evidence that she is being force fed information by Democrats save your and other Kavanaugh supporters' "fake news" crap.
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Originally Posted by 4dognight
The eyes give it away. She is lying and she knows that there are experts who can read body language and see in her eyes any doubts about what she is saying.
Bring on the experts then. And BTW, Kavanaugh has already been caught in lies. Not being able to back up a claim doesn't mean it's not true. Consider how many people are religious
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Originally Posted by 4dognight
Undoubtedly she has been coached by some of the most conniving, deceitful, vindictive lawyers and politicians that exist.
Undoubtedly? Who coached Dr. Ford? Show us the surveillance tapes. What, you don't have any proof? Imagine that
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Originally Posted by EastwardBound
I said I welcome the week-long investigation. A longer investigation would have been better, and had the rat Feinstein come forward sooner, there could have been a more detailed investigation.
The truth is that the Democrats have used Ford as a pawn to try to derail this nomination. Those are some really evil people sitting there.
So show us the proof, fellow truth seeker. Show us how Democrats have pressured Dr. Ford to testify to something so traumatic, embarrassing, and personal that she would testify in front of the entire country voluntarily to be judged by people just like the posters on here.
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Originally Posted by Rakin
They are just typical Democrats making accusations they know are false just to smear the man. They don't like his conservatism and they will do ANYTHING to keep him off the bench.
If he's not selected, I hope he retains his seat as a Federal Judge. Nothing like a pissed off judge.
Your conspiracy theory makes no sense at all. Why? Because if Kavanaugh doesn't get the nomination, Trump will just appoint another conservative. Democrats don't want a sexual predator appointed to the Supreme court. Hell, I wouldn't want a sexual predator taking my order at McDonalds. That doesn't seem unreasonable to me
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All the screeching about Brett Kavanaugh being innocent and Ford being a liar (when Kavanaugh himself has already been caught in several lies) is nothing but white male privilege rising up in indignant outrage that anyone should question that privilege. Kavanaugh's unhinged, partisan and bizarre belligerence was the behavior of a predator backed against a wall. If the situation had been reversed and Kavanaugh had conducted himself with quiet dignity (as Ford did), while Ford had come out yelling about Republican conspiracy theories and full of belligerence and hostility, Kavanaugh's supporters would have immediately labeled her behavior insane ravings. Now, they are actually claiming that Ford mistook someone else for Kavanaugh. They are actually trying to gaslight her. Appalling, not to mention an utterly absurd move on the part of desperate old white men.
Further, the maniacal claims that the Democrats are "evil" or dishonest are nothing more than right-wing projections of GOP tactics. It was the GOP who denied Obama the pick of a Supreme Court Justice, which no Congress in history has ever done. And the right wing response to this--"Elections have consequences"--is bizarre. Yes, elections have consequences, one of which is that an elected sitting President has the right to nominate a Supreme Court candidate for a hearing. To deny him that right was the most blatant, dirty move imaginable. And yet now the right wing is calling "foul"? People are sick of this bull.
Oh...... the irony.
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Nice work. Will look at this more closely when time permits.
