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That is allot of guns, Leno has over 500 car's, what a collection you must have.
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Originally Posted by Ex New Yorker
Well not quite, according to Wikipedia Leno has 286 vehicles, 169 automobiles and 117 motorcycles. I don't know how recent that article was? As a car guy myself I've often heard that the number is 181 cars and 160 motorcycles to date. According to the LA Times he owns 130 cars and 93 motorcycles. Whatever, that's still a lot of vehicles. I would imagine that those figures fluctuate if he buys and sells some of his collection. Which begs the question: How many cars/motorcycles are too many for 1 person to own? Given the fact that thousands of people are killed or maimed in motor vehicle accidents annually. My answer to that is as many as you can afford and choose to own as long as you drive safely and operate them in a lawful manner.
Having a drivers license is no guarantee that you are or will be a safe driver either. The road test is a piece of cake that damn near anyone can pass. Proof of mental stability isn't a requirement to obtain a drivers license. Any madman can get behind the wheel drive into a crowd and mow down as many people as possible. Neither is there a background check required to purchase a vehicle or the gasoline used to run it. Gasoline which by the way was used to kill 87 people in the Happyland Fire at a Bronx social club in March of 1990. After all if it will save just one life. I've heard that ad nauseam along with gun ownership being compared to the licensing and registration of vehicles. However you do not have to register a vehicle to own one, you just can't use it legally on a public highway or thoroughfare. Besides there is no specific Constitutional right to own a vehicle although property rights may apply.
Indeed once there is a threat of something being banned or the possibility of not being able to purchase it in the future people will rush out to buy them. Which means that the value of the guns can only go up due to supply and demand. So I guess that's good for our side as there will be even more people willing to defend their right to own them as they now have something of value that they are not willing to give up.
One thing good about collecting guns is that you do not need an airport hanger to house all of them, just a good quality safe to store them in. Not only that they do not require a lot of maintenance, just a good thorough cleaning after using them and an occasional cleaning if they are carried often. They're a hell of a lot easier to work on too, if you're mechanically inclined and not intimidated by all of those little moving parts, along with springs and pins that like to go flying all over the place if you're not careful. It's a hell of a lot easier than pulling engines and transmissions along with suspension and body work, I can tell you that.
I went looking and I found the same numbers as you, I only remember a interview some years ago with Jay Leno, and was asked why he had some many cars and would he drive them: Jay Leno indicated sure he would drive every one of them, no point in having a car and not driving it. Jay Leno also indicated he could drive a different car every day. From the interview he said it would take well over a year to do it. I inferred that to mean over 500+.
But even if you go by Wikipedia of 286, that is still a good collection of cars, and that would be a large gun collection.
Pardon me but I hunt- a lot. Geese and ducks I have a 12ga. Grouse and pheasant a 20 and 28ga. For elk a 7mm Rem Mag, for deer/antelope/vermin a .257 Roberts. In grizzly country I either have my .44 magnum or .45-70 lever action. For plinking some old .22 bolt actions. I conceal carry- around town a Glock. For walks behind my house in the hills (Mountain lion country) a .357 Mag.
I have my father in laws .45 Colt, which was carried in WW2, and his father carried in in WWI.
Firearms are tools. You choose the right one for the job (or quarry) you will encounter.
One size does not ‘fit all’.
I agree, its a tool for specific jobs. Each member has their tool for HD/SD. I have the Vietnam war trophy and a M1 Garand 1943. Those are collectors.
Sounds like you need to keep better friends, that has nothing to do with the laws.
Whether I'm friends with this guy or not does not change the fact that essentially two doors down there is a loaded unsecured lethal weapon essentially out in the open. It isn't like my being friends with the guy protects me from his stupidity. His irresponsibility is to blame, yet his right to own a gun shall not be infringed. Super.
From the OP, "All other things equal, do you consider someone who owns a large stash of weapons as suspect or worthy of close scrutiny?"
The US Gov't investigates thousands of Americans, covertly or otherwise, when there's reason to believe they may be involved with known terrorist groups. Most are probably cleared - and most likely without their knowledge of ever having been investigated.
So if Joe Smith is reported to have a bunch of guns, (let's say 600 collected over 6 months) is he "suspect or worthy of close scrutiny?"
If he's investigated and found to be a legitimate, newly minted firearms collector, (which may be true 99% of the time) then he's cleared.
If, OTOH, he's been found to have had no previous interest in firearms, and has just been dumped by his GF or fired from his job, (the 1%,) to keep an eye on him might prevent the next tragedy.
Better safe than sorry, but is it fair? No, it's a tremendous invasion of privacy, (just like being investigated for terrorist connections.) Is it prudent? Perhaps. Sometimes ya gotta go for the greater good. Are such investigations likely to happen in today's climate?
To continue to focus on the implement that has neither intent, nor its own purpose is ludicrous. Focus on the person that has ill intent, or has committed illegal, and violent acts.
Really? I have a couple chain saws....different sizes for different kinds of cutting. I also have several hammers, again different sizes/weights. I've got several ladders too, difference sizes and styles. Heck, I've got multiple snow shovels for different kinds of snow/conditions/places being shoveled. You must not live in the countryside. Different guns for different kinds of shooting.
To continue to focus on the implement that has neither intent, nor its own purpose is ludicrous. Focus on the person that has ill intent, or has committed illegal, and violent acts.
I keep saying this but liberals and Rinos won't have it...
They're all for focusing on implements.
Not Motive Incentive Intent.
From the OP, "All other things equal, do you consider someone who owns a large stash of weapons as suspect or worthy of close scrutiny?"
The US Gov't investigates thousands of Americans, covertly or otherwise, when there's reason to believe they may be involved with known terrorist groups. Most are probably cleared - and most likely without their knowledge of ever having been investigated.
So if Joe Smith is reported to have a bunch of guns, (let's say 600 collected over 6 months) is he "suspect or worthy of close scrutiny?"
If he's investigated and found to be a legitimate, newly minted firearms collector, (which may be true 99% of the time) then he's cleared.
If, OTOH, he's been found to have had no previous interest in firearms, and has just been dumped by his GF or fired from his job, (the 1%,) to keep an eye on him might prevent the next tragedy.
Better safe than sorry, but is it fair? No, it's a tremendous invasion of privacy, (just like being investigated for terrorist connections.) Is it prudent? Perhaps. Sometimes ya gotta go for the greater good. Are such investigations likely to happen in today's climate?
Nope.
You would love NY being a natural busy body. You can rat on your suspected neighbors out of feeble assumptions.
From the OP, "All other things equal, do you consider someone who owns a large stash of weapons as suspect or worthy of close scrutiny?"
The US Gov't investigates thousands of Americans, covertly or otherwise, when there's reason to believe they may be involved with known terrorist groups. Most are probably cleared - and most likely without their knowledge of ever having been investigated.
So if Joe Smith is reported to have a bunch of guns, (let's say 600 collected over 6 months) is he "suspect or worthy of close scrutiny?"
If he's investigated and found to be a legitimate, newly minted firearms collector, (which may be true 99% of the time) then he's cleared.
If, OTOH, he's been found to have had no previous interest in firearms, and has just been dumped by his GF or fired from his job, (the 1%,) to keep an eye on him might prevent the next tragedy.
Better safe than sorry, but is it fair? No, it's a tremendous invasion of privacy, (just like being investigated for terrorist connections.) Is it prudent? Perhaps. Sometimes ya gotta go for the greater good. Are such investigations likely to happen in today's climate?
Nope.
Let's apply your theory here to something you enjoy.
Would you be suspicious of a guy who just got dumped by their girlfriend going out and buying a Corvette? And is seen pulling it in his garage?
oh dear he swapped the cam in it. oh dear he put headers back exhaust on it. oh dear he's put a different set of tires on it.
Nobody needs a 700hp daily driver he could potentially wipe out so many people leaving a car show! I don't know what his driving skills are. I better alert the authorities.
Seriously though you would love NY.
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oh dear he swapped the cam in it.
he could potentially wipe out so many people leaving a car show! I don't know what his driving skills are. I better alert the authorities. 
