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Old 08-29-2018, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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But you are allright with Obama giving Iran so much cash at one time, they had to load it on pallets, and deliver it in the dark of night.

Me thinks you have your priorities backwards.

Bob.
I am?

Show me one place--anywhere--where I have ever advocated for Obama, or anyone else, to give MY stolen income to a foreign country.

I'll wait.
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Old 08-29-2018, 05:23 PM
 
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Yeah we aren't debating past policies.

So you are for government handouts?

That's all - -yes or no - -no history --just you support government handouts.
Either FDR's programs are handouts or they aren't. (I didn't think you'd answer that simple question)

You guys blame Trump for a farm subsidy program that has been the law of the land for 80+ years.

If that isn't Trump Derangement, then I don't know what is. It has to be seen to be believed.
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Old 08-29-2018, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Either FDR's programs are handouts or they aren't. (I didn't think you'd answer that simple question)

You guys blame Trump for a farm subsidy program that has been the law of the land for 80+ years.

If that isn't Trump Derangement, then I don't know what is. It has to be seen to be believed.
LAWL.

Obama reiterates call for farm subsidy cuts | Reuters

Trump is an even bigger leftist than Obama.

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Old 08-29-2018, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Willamette Valley, Oregon
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ALL handouts not only should be abolished--they MUST be abolished.

All of them are funded by money stolen from the income and profits of American workers and business owners.

So what happens to all the money I've paid in since before I was 18?


Do I get it back?
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Old 08-29-2018, 05:27 PM
 
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LAWL.

Obama reiterates call for farm subsidy cuts | Reuters

Trump is an even bigger leftist than Obama.

Indeed.



Let's keep in mind. Obama's policies destroyed the Democrat party. They have been reduced to a state of powerlessness not seen for over 100 years.
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Old 08-29-2018, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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So what happens to all the money I've paid in since before I was 18?


Do I get it back?
The money you had forcibly taken for Ponzi Insecurity is **poof!** gone. It's currently funding the retirement of old people.

Your "taxes" have been used to pay interest on the debt and to fund wars and other entitlements.
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Old 08-29-2018, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Indeed.



Let's keep in mind. Obama's policies destroyed the Democrat party. They have been reduced to a state of powerlessness not seen for over 100 years.
Well as one who never has been, nor ever will be, a Democrat, your statement means nothing to me.

Trump sure seems to have the desire to bring back leftist economic policies, though.
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Old 08-29-2018, 05:45 PM
 
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I have no problem with President Trump using this little-used FDR law. We must have farmers.



Of course, the bailout is only needed due to Mr. Trump's idiotic 'trade war'.



Let us acknowledge this, for it is widely reported: those countries that purchased our soybeans, wheat, sorghum, etc., are now looking for new suppliers. Hopefully, Mr. Trump will prevail in his efforts, and China, the EU, etc., will continue to purchase our excess farm produce.



Yet, even a dotard will acknowledge that China, for instance, is seeking new deals with Brazil and other countries, to satisfy their demand for soybeans and such.



That is the danger: our farmers may (may) be losing foreign markets for years.



See, as one instance:



https://www.reuters.com/article/us-s...-idUSKBN1JG046


Mr. Trump has trodden down a dangerous path. It is good that he is attempting to ameliorate the financial damage to our farmers, although it is only a pittance. Many farmers will, when all is said and done, have to go out of business.
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Old 08-29-2018, 05:50 PM
 
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Who says republicans dont love socialism, bailouts, taxes, cronyism, welfare, protectionism...
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Old 08-29-2018, 05:52 PM
 
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This is indeed a Socialist program and it's totally irrelevant who created it. The Trump administration is doing it.
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