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Old 09-13-2018, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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While I certainly understand that free speech applies to government suppression of it, I find bans on these public platforms a little troubling for a different reason. I wouldn't call them "partnerships" but almost every major agency relies on FB and/or Twitter as means for emergency communications on critical and sometimes life saving info.

I think there needs to be a middle ground somewhere. Ban people who are abusive from tweeting or posting but allow them read access so they can be informed on critical information. Its almost as if Twitter and FB have unofficially replaced things like the emergency broadcast system and the news. Its definitely more efficient, faster, and further reaching.
You don't have to have a facebook or twitter account to read posts.
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Old 09-13-2018, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Not 100% sure, but I think you do. Especially if you want to follow certain accounts like FEMA, FBI, or local First Responders so you can be alerted to critical activities.
Nope. I don't have a twitter account, and I can search for the name@twitter and read. I can even bookmark those that I may read more often for ease of access.
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Old 09-13-2018, 03:43 PM
 
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Looks like they already have it back up with a complete archive.



https://voat.co/v/GreatAwakening


Don't really see anything there that would result in a ban, considering all the other stuff on reddit, beyond simple partisan bias.
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Old 09-13-2018, 03:45 PM
 
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You can always tell the Hannity viewers.
Can't tell them much, though.
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Old 09-13-2018, 03:54 PM
 
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Yes, but you can't tell them about socialism or communism, they won't listen to that crap.
That's abundantly clear given the way they throw around those terms without the slightest notion of what they're talking about.
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Old 09-13-2018, 03:57 PM
 
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Looks like they already have it back up with a complete archive.



https://voat.co/v/GreatAwakening


Don't really see anything there that would result in a ban, considering all the other stuff on reddit, beyond simple partisan bias.
So...free market at work and all that. Cool. Everyone is free not to associate with social media companies if they dont like the terms. Get enough people to switch and there ya go. Much more reasonable than trying to get the government to go after businesses.
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Old 09-14-2018, 08:23 AM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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Crazy line of reasoning. They can create their own platform, but won't be able to use it???????? They have platforms. They are using those platforms. They want to use other platforms, but don't want to follow the rules those other platforms have established. That's their problem.
Where are you going to get the apps if they (Google, Apple, etc) don't want you to have them? How are you going to drive people to it when search engines (Google, etc) don't want that to happen? How are you going to make revenue from advertisers when they are pressured to not advertise with you, or when a company like Google AdSense won't deal with you? How are your content providers, if you have them, going to get paid if payment processors (PayPal, Patreon, etc) won't deal with you, or them? Etc........

Everyone, including you, are at the mercy of those in Silicon Valley (Google, Apple, etc), who controls it all.


"but don't want to follow the rules"
Many who had been demonetized, deplatformed, had their content hidden, etc., had been following the rules. When that happens the content provider will contest it and eventually all will be restored, with just an 'oops, our bad' type of apology from YT, FB, etc., but it can take days or weeks for that to happen. Meanwhile the content provider is losing money because of it...and for many of them, putting up their content is how they are earning a living.
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Old 09-14-2018, 11:53 AM
 
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Where are you going to get the apps if they (Google, Apple, etc) don't want you to have them? How are you going to drive people to it when search engines (Google, etc) don't want that to happen? How are you going to make revenue from advertisers when they are pressured to not advertise with you, or when a company like Google AdSense won't deal with you? How are your content providers, if you have them, going to get paid if payment processors (PayPal, Patreon, etc) won't deal with you, or them? Etc........

Everyone, including you, are at the mercy of those in Silicon Valley (Google, Apple, etc), who controls it all.


"but don't want to follow the rules"
Many who had been demonetized, deplatformed, had their content hidden, etc., had been following the rules. When that happens the content provider will contest it and eventually all will be restored, with just an 'oops, our bad' type of apology from YT, FB, etc., but it can take days or weeks for that to happen. Meanwhile the content provider is losing money because of it...and for many of them, putting up their content is how they are earning a living.
You can host an app on your own site, for one. There are other options besides the most popular, for the other things.

It's the nature of being a content producer, much less a business owner in general. I have been making money online for a decade. Its capricious and wild sometimes, but there is great potential too. Not everyone relies on ad income to make money, for one thing.

Your income can drop at any time for any reason. You adapt. You can't expect to have things just handed to you, or have Republicans put away the bootstraps?
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Old 09-14-2018, 12:45 PM
 
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Where are you going to get the apps if they (Google, Apple, etc) don't want you to have them? How are you going to drive people to it when search engines (Google, etc) don't want that to happen? How are you going to make revenue from advertisers when they are pressured to not advertise with you, or when a company like Google AdSense won't deal with you? How are your content providers, if you have them, going to get paid if payment processors (PayPal, Patreon, etc) won't deal with you, or them? Etc........

Everyone, including you, are at the mercy of those in Silicon Valley (Google, Apple, etc), who controls it all.


"but don't want to follow the rules"
Many who had been demonetized, deplatformed, had their content hidden, etc., had been following the rules. When that happens the content provider will contest it and eventually all will be restored, with just an 'oops, our bad' type of apology from YT, FB, etc., but it can take days or weeks for that to happen. Meanwhile the content provider is losing money because of it...and for many of them, putting up their content is how they are earning a living.
Maybe you guys should have thought about all that before you decided that it was OK for companies to discriminate.
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Old 09-14-2018, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Southern Colorado
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Reddit is now headquarters for the socialist hive mind.
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