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AP News: "North Dakota’s Republican-led legislature began tightening state voter identification laws shortly after Heitkamp’s razor-thin victory six years ago"
Hmm, they didn't seem to care about PO boxes until a Democrat won.
So, I can see how not using a PO Box as proof of address guarantees voting in the right election. Thoughts?
There's an estimated 1.5 million homeless in America. They don't have street addresses or P.O. boxes. Are we going to deprive these lawful citizens their constitutional right to vote?
AP News: "North Dakota’s Republican-led legislature began tightening state voter identification laws shortly after Heitkamp’s razor-thin victory six years ago"
Hmm, they didn't seem to care about PO boxes until a Democrat won.
Of course not. Everyone sees it for what it is and odds are, plenty of Trump voters will suffer as well. It's North Dakota.
There's an estimated 1.5 million homeless in America. They don't have street addresses or P.O. boxes. Are we going to deprive these lawful citizens their constitutional right to vote?
Excellent question.
To some, it seems that unless you own a home, you're vote as a citizen of the USA matters not. Even those that have fought for the country. Look at the percentage of US Vets that are on the streets. I guess it's a f****** you if you're unfortunate enough to be homeless in North Dakota.
To some, it seems that unless you own a home, you're vote as a citizen of the USA matters not. Even those that have fought for the country. Look at the percentage of US Vets that are on the streets. I guess it's a f****** you if you're unfortunate enough to be homeless in North Dakota.
It is a good question, and it turns out that many homeless shelters will allow those who use their services to use that address for the purposes of proving residency. So there is a work around if people know that it's available to them.
It is a good question, and it turns out that many homeless shelters will allow those who use their services to use that address for the purposes of proving residency. So there is a work around if people know that it's available to them.
Do you think that those that voted for this, know that?
I assume that to be in one of the shelters, you would have to have some ID and credentials that prove you aren't an illegal just taking up space, right?
There's an estimated 1.5 million homeless in America. They don't have street addresses or P.O. boxes. Are we going to deprive these lawful citizens their constitutional right to vote?
From the article in the OP:
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North Dakota doesn't require voter registration, so voters are allowed to show up at the polls on election day and vote if they present valid identification. Drivers' licenses and tribal ID cards are accepted if they bear a current residential street address. If an ID lacks a current street address, other documents such as utility bills, bank statements or government documents with a current street address can provide the required proof.
Even if your state ID or tribal ID don't have a valid street address, utility bills, etc., with a valid street ID would suffice too. Moreover, it is an easy fix to use a family/friend/tribal government building/etc. as a valid street ID. This is not too much to ask and is actually a reasonable request to ensure that people are who they say they are and can account for the fact that they live in the state. Such a concern is particularly important as--as the above quote states--there is no voter registration requirement in ND. Voters are free to just show up and vote, meaning that it would actually be fairly easy without an address requirement for non-state residents to just vote when they are not allowed to under the law. The address requirement is a fair compromise.
Do you think that those that voted for this, know that?
I assume that to be in one of the shelters, you would have to have some ID and credentials that prove you aren't an illegal just taking up space, right?
I think it's the other way around. People using the services of shelters can list its address for the purpose of getting a state ID.
How does staying at a shelter give you credentials to get a government issued ID?
It's proof of residency, which opens lots of doors for the homeless. Having a government-issued ID, btw, doesn't automatically give a person the right to vote. It's not proof of citizenship, just residency. I can't even get a library card without proving residency, so that address is important.
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