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Unless the republicans and moderates get out and vote, the dems won't take the hint that integrity matters. We live in a society where people are basically saying with their vote that integrity doesn't matter, all that matters is "mah feelings." As far as Trump's behavior, I'm convinced he just acts the way he does because he knows how to manipulate the press, after reading and watching some of his material from the 80's.
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Trump will have 320 EV's in 2020.
He will pick up Minnesota and New Hampshire at least.
Depends on who the democrats run.. they seem to think they need to run some celebrity figure.. Obama is proof you don't need somebody well known... just get a well spoken person who is perhaps more moderate leaning with some integrity and they could probably win easily since Trump's behavior still turns a number of people off. Obama wasn't 'that' bad, and he was well spoken and articulate. Part of the reason is because there was gridlock with republicans in congress not getting his bills through, which is why I always promote gridlock. The less bills we pass, the better.
When you've got a case like this - a bitter battle, and the winners winning in a teeny way, but going about fist bumping each other and jeering and belly bumping, that's a huge concern. Graceful winning is essential when the populace is split half and half.
Which is something Trump completely does not get. And it will be the death of us as a country. Even the Civil War/Reconstruction presidents got that truth. If you win, you are graceful to the "losers" in your country, because unity is paramount.
I don't think the right wing/Trumpers understand this vital concept. Graceful winning is so very important. Unless they're fine with breaking the US in two, which is where we're headed.
Graceful winning IS important. Too bad BO didn't read this post. After all, he's the one who chortled, “Elections have consequences. We won, you lost. Get over it.”
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Unless the republicans and moderates get out and vote, the dems won't take the hint that integrity matters. We live in a society where people are basically saying with their vote that integrity doesn't matter, all that matters is "mah feelings." As far as Trump's behavior, I'm convinced he just acts the way he does because he knows how to manipulate the press, after reading and watching some of his material from the 80's.
I would think the democrats are saying what matters is the rights that have been fought for since the 70's.
And it's a concern, the passion of the people who want to take them away.
Roe v Wade is indeed on the table, as is the right of gays to marry. Somehow, there is a segment of society who thinks they have a right to tell other people who they can love.
When did the popular vote ever matter? Do tell oh and BTW: 304 vs 227
Evidently it is, because you and many other do not have the ability to understand what 304 vs 227 means.....
It's not an emotional win, a person stood up for himself, why are you mad at that?
Yes, yes you are.
Yes they did and you and your ilk cannot stand it.
Yes, and people will remember what happened in September and October..it's fresh in their minds....
Oh you know I've acknowledge that Trump has won fair and square so don't give me -- when did the popular vote matter. It matters when folks pretend that there was some sweeping movement from American voters. He won -- yes he did.
'he squeaked in' was Kavanaugh -- one vote changes and it's a tie -- two and he's not confirmed -- that's a squeak.
The emotional win -- is my comment. Unlike some folks i don't believe there will be huge change with Kavanaugh on the bench...so it is a symbolic or feel good movement but I still have faith that the court will do their job according to the letter of the law.
No -- the voters didn't make a big grand gesture. No matter how much you want to believe there was some big statement made.....the votes just don't show that.
And you are most certainly right -- folks may remember what happened in September and October. Right now we have no clear picture of what folks other than the strong base for either party, think. Nobody knows. We may have feelings but we don't know.
Or is it going to take another victory in November for you guys to get the picture? Your slanderous, wedge-issue, never-Trump campaigning methods doesn't work anymore. People are sick and tired of the lies and hatred that your party constantly spews.
The rest of the country is moving forward. It's time to decide if you want to get left behind.
Democrats aren’t generally known to be as politically active as Republicans. It’s one of the shortfalls of pandering to a lazy constituency
It would take another young, Black, smart, charasmatic Obama for Democrats to turn this ship around. And Michelle already said she wasn’t running.
When liberals called anyone who didn’t agree with them racist, sexist, homophobe, bigots, and basket of deplorables, Americans don’t forget it.
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Graceful winning IS important. Too bad BO didn't read this post. After all, he's the one who chortled, “Elections have consequences. We won, you lost. Get over it.”
How many times, would you estimate, that Trump has made a statement very similar to that?
I think more than 100 times when he goes to places that are in white poverty.
And Obama won the popular vote AND the electoral vote, so there's a little more moral ground to stand on when you state your victory.
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