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Old 10-10-2018, 08:52 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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I want to preface by saying I know not all conservatives are against legalization. However, the primary resistance to legalizing cannabis at this time is coming from the Republican Party, specifically the donor class and the religious right.

Why is this one of those issues where the typical "small government" narrative does not apply? Why is it that we need a big nanny-state government to protect ourselves from the devil's lettuce? Is it because conservatives simply detest weed because it's more commonly associated with liberal sectors of the American populace? Is it because they believe it is sinful? Do conservatives genuinely believe that the War on Drugs is working and that locking up non-violent marijuana users is a good idea? Conservatives hate when liberals compare weed to alcohol and tobacco but it's a very good comparison. Recreational use is a vice and weed has medicinal properties for some people and conditions.

I'm not saying marijuana is harmless. I think the risk factors are overblown but it isn't completely harmless. However, just because there are risks associated doesn't necessarily mean it should be illegal. Why do Republicans typically think otherwise?
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Old 10-10-2018, 09:17 AM
 
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I don't hear a lot for the Republicans on this issue. I think they realize the pot-legalization-ship has sailed.
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Old 10-10-2018, 09:19 AM
 
Location: My House
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The members of the religious right who oppose it must have watched Reefer Madness when they were younger and thought it was a documentary?

I think some of the more conservative churches speak to the evils of all substances that alter the mind. These same folks are the ones who were behind prohibition.
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Old 10-10-2018, 09:22 AM
 
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I want to preface by saying I know not all conservatives are against legalization. However, the primary resistance to legalizing cannabis at this time is coming from the Republican Party, specifically the donor class and the religious right.

Why is this one of those issues where the typical "small government" narrative does not apply? Why is it that we need a big nanny-state government to protect ourselves from the devil's lettuce? Is it because conservatives simply detest weed because it's more commonly associated with liberal sectors of the American populace? Is it because they believe it is sinful? Do conservatives genuinely believe that the War on Drugs is working and that locking up non-violent marijuana users is a good idea? Conservatives hate when liberals compare weed to alcohol and tobacco but it's a very good comparison. Recreational use is a vice and weed has medicinal properties for some people and conditions.

I'm not saying marijuana is harmless. I think the risk factors are overblown but it isn't completely harmless. However, just because there are risks associated doesn't necessarily mean it should be illegal. Why do Republicans typically think otherwise?
Couldn't care less.
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Old 10-10-2018, 09:22 AM
 
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The simple answer is 81 years of government brainwashing and demonizing that stuck deep in the minds of our parents and grandparents.

But this really isn't a story of partisan politics or evangelicals. It is a story of corruption. It is rooted in 81 year old corruption and has only grown even more roots over the years into even more corrupt soil, now that we have things like Big Pharma and For Profit Prisons.

Corruption is why it is still illegal to this day, not public perception.
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Old 10-10-2018, 09:23 AM
 
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Couldn't care less.
That's too bad, because prohibition harms thousands of people every single day.
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Old 10-10-2018, 09:24 AM
 
Location: My House
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The simple answer is 81 years of government brainwashing and demonizing that stuck deep in the minds of our parents and grandparents.

This really isn't a story of partisan politics or evangelicals. It is a story of corruption. It is rooted in 81 year old corruption and has only grown even more roots into corrupt soil now that we have things like Big Pharma and For Profit Prisons.
I blame Big Cotton. They ran the hemp farmers out of the country, basically.
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Old 10-10-2018, 09:28 AM
 
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I blame Big Cotton. They ran the hemp farmers out of the country, basically.
Big Paper
Big Cotton
Racism
A Law Enforcement Arm of The Government that needed a new job since alcohol prohibition had been repealed

All of it played a role in the creation of The Marihuana Tax Stamp Act of 1937.
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Old 10-10-2018, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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I want to preface by saying I know not all conservatives are against legalization. However, the primary resistance to legalizing cannabis at this time is coming from the Republican Party, specifically the donor class and the religious right.

Why is this one of those issues where the typical "small government" narrative does not apply? Why is it that we need a big nanny-state government to protect ourselves from the devil's lettuce? Is it because conservatives simply detest weed because it's more commonly associated with liberal sectors of the American populace? Is it because they believe it is sinful? Do conservatives genuinely believe that the War on Drugs is working and that locking up non-violent marijuana users is a good idea? Conservatives hate when liberals compare weed to alcohol and tobacco but it's a very good comparison. Recreational use is a vice and weed has medicinal properties for some people and conditions.

I'm not saying marijuana is harmless. I think the risk factors are overblown but it isn't completely harmless. However, just because there are risks associated doesn't necessarily mean it should be illegal. Why do Republicans typically think otherwise?
totally false narrative


this constitutionalist conservative has always supported hemp, as do all the conservatives I know...


yet here on CD, there are many who identify as liberal, and they bash hemp as a major drug...




btw there are 1001 uses for marijuana other than getting high
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Old 10-10-2018, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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I blame Big Cotton. They ran the hemp farmers out of the country, basically.
big cotton, big forestry (for paper), and big chemical (dow, DuPont), and big government (the liberals of the 1930's including FDR)
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