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Old 10-18-2018, 10:28 AM
 
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The findings, or lack thereof, in Mueller's report are irrelevant. The only thing that matters is who controls the House after the November election. If the dems take control, they will impeach Trump...for something, anything, either with the help of Mueller's report or without it. If the republicans maintain control he will not be impeached no matter what the report says. The report is a prop, nothing more.

 
Old 10-18-2018, 10:28 AM
 
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What has Mueller and his team been doing for the last 2 years?

How many emails, tweets and people can be interviewed and how long does that take?





I wonder how many times a day his team sits around checking their own social media, playing video games watching movies?

This whole deal sounds like a Union job where they do just enough each day so they don't "kill the job"..



What a waste of time and taxpayer money.
Just because you do not understand the process, law or scope, does not mean it is a useless waste of time and money.
 
Old 10-18-2018, 01:08 PM
 
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There already is credible evidence of obstruction of justice with Trump and Republicans went ahead and voted Kavanaugh in anyway.
Please share with the class...
 
Old 10-18-2018, 01:15 PM
 
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Please share with the class...
Has the class not been paying attention for the past two years?
 
Old 10-18-2018, 01:26 PM
 
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For those who are still clueless:

https://www.brookings.edu/research/p...p-2nd-edition/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlo...=.ea2393af57f6

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...-he-needs.html

This ought to get folks up to speed. If not, there are about 100,000 more links on a Google search.

Asking the FBI Director to go easy on Flynn. Firing Comey over "the Russian thing." Tweeting that the DOJ should investigate political opponents. Attempts to block legislation that would protect Mueller's investigation. Lying about Don Jr.'s Trump Tower meeting. Tweeting that Sessions should end the Special Counsel investigation. ...

There is quite a list of Trump's attempts to obstruct justice. And this is just what the public knows.

What with Manafort and Cohen being cooperating witnesses, there's a good chance Team Mueller knows a lot more.
 
Old 10-18-2018, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould View Post
For those who are still clueless:

https://www.brookings.edu/research/p...p-2nd-edition/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlo...=.ea2393af57f6

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...-he-needs.html

This ought to get folks up to speed. If not, there are about 100,000 more links on a Google search.

Asking the FBI Director to go easy on Flynn. Firing Comey over "the Russian thing." Tweeting that the DOJ should investigate political opponents. Attempts to block legislation that would protect Mueller's investigation. Lying about Don Jr.'s Trump Tower meeting. Tweeting that Sessions should end the Special Counsel investigation. ...

There is quite a list of Trump's attempts to obstruct justice. And this is just what the public knows.

What with Manafort and Cohen being cooperating witnesses, there's a good chance Team Mueller knows a lot more.

Nice list of liberal sources. Great readings for progressives but useless for anyone with half a brain cell.


Le me reply to your "proof"

Asking the FBI Director to go easy on Flynn.

-> How is that obstructing justice?

Firing Comey over "the Russian thing."

-> A President can fire a cabinet member for any reason
Tweeting that the DOJ should investigate political opponents.

-> First amendment

Attempts to block legislation that would protect Mueller's investigation.
-> Huh?

Lying about Don Jr.'s Trump Tower meeting.

-> He hasn't testified under oath regarding this. So this is a non-issue.

Tweeting that Sessions should end the Special Counsel investigation. ...
-> First amendment
 
Old 10-18-2018, 01:55 PM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould View Post
For those who are still clueless:

https://www.brookings.edu/research/p...p-2nd-edition/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlo...=.ea2393af57f6

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...-he-needs.html

This ought to get folks up to speed. If not, there are about 100,000 more links on a Google search.

Asking the FBI Director to go easy on Flynn. Firing Comey over "the Russian thing." Tweeting that the DOJ should investigate political opponents. Attempts to block legislation that would protect Mueller's investigation. Lying about Don Jr.'s Trump Tower meeting. Tweeting that Sessions should end the Special Counsel investigation. ...

There is quite a list of Trump's attempts to obstruct justice. And this is just what the public knows.

What with Manafort and Cohen being cooperating witnesses, there's a good chance Team Mueller knows a lot more.
And don't forget Allen Weaselberg. CFO of Trump Org. He might know a little about bank fraud, money laundering, tax fraud, etc.
 
Old 10-18-2018, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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If they had anything substantial, it would have already been leaked. Everything else was.
Like all those secret indictments, secret federal trials, and secret prison sentences? You would think that would have come out. Oh, wait...

Mueller is not going to pull a Comey and monkey wrench the election. We always knew he would wait until after the midterms. We have known that for a year.

Oh, and there has been absolutely nothing leaked from Mueller's office. We don't even know what they had for lunch.
 
Old 10-18-2018, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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Curious why you think that? Everything I've read has said that those are no longer prosecutable due to the statute of limitations on tax related crimes.
Yeah, he won't go to jail, but he will have to pay back taxes and penalties. He should get away with only paying $600 million or so.
 
Old 10-18-2018, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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Originally Posted by Cape Cod Todd View Post
What has Mueller and his team been doing for the last 2 years?

How many emails, tweets and people can be interviewed and how long does that take?

I wonder how many times a day his team sits around checking their own social media, playing video games watching movies?

This whole deal sounds like a Union job where they do just enough each day so they don't "kill the job"..

What a waste of time and taxpayer money.
Cohen alone has spent over 50 hours in interviews with the FBI, and they have all his files, which they have to put together as corroborating evidence. Manafort is singing like a canary, and he was right in the middle of it as Trump's campaign manager as well as being a known Russian agent.

They have plenty to do. They don't just get to babble on City-Data, they have to build an airtight court case. Surely the House will start impeachment proceedings, but they will screw it up just like elected officials always do. Mueller is playing in the pros.
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