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Old 10-31-2018, 07:38 PM
 
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Does anyone else think that sometimes people can be categorized into two types, either feminist or traditional?

I think that society has slowly been going into a more feminist trend throughout history. There have been peaks and valleys, but I think that is the general trend. I've always thought that it was healthy and good whenever a woman wanted to become a career professional, and even become a manager type. I've never liked women who wanted to act subservient, especially to men.

More traditional women might be successful in the professional world, but they might tend to be the kind who had sexual affairs in an attempt to become successful.

Feminist women are definitely NOT men hating. But they may not like men who are more traditional or what we might think of as the "cowboy" type.

I think that sometimes even some lesbians might have a lot of respect for feminist men. Or they may have a negative view of traditional men. And they might fit more into the feminist category, if that makes sense.

Anyway, I don't know if any of what I said has made sense, but I'm curious if anyone else has ever thought about this, and how people can fall more into one of these two categories.

 
Old 10-31-2018, 08:40 PM
 
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There are always extremes but generally I don’t see women falling into two clearly defined categories.
 
Old 10-31-2018, 08:44 PM
 
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Eh....you forgot an apparently large portion of women who proudly are expressly NOT feminists - they never needed it, never wanted it and don't seem to like anyone who thinks there is such a need. That doesn't necessarily mean they are "traditional" but they are anti-feminist. Not sure there is a parallel category for men....
 
Old 10-31-2018, 08:50 PM
 
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Does anyone else think that sometimes people can be categorized into two types, either feminist or traditional?

I think that society has slowly been going into a more feminist trend throughout history. There have been peaks and valleys, but I think that is the general trend. I've always thought that it was healthy and good whenever a woman wanted to become a career professional, and even become a manager type. I've never liked women who wanted to act subservient, especially to men.

More traditional women might be successful in the professional world, but they might tend to be the kind who had sexual affairs in an attempt to become successful.

Feminist women are definitely NOT men hating. But they may not like men who are more traditional or what we might think of as the "cowboy" type.

I think that sometimes even some lesbians might have a lot of respect for feminist men. Or they may have a negative view of traditional men. And they might fit more into the feminist category, if that makes sense.

Anyway, I don't know if any of what I said has made sense, but I'm curious if anyone else has ever thought about this, and how people can fall more into one of these two categories.
I can't see if you have you have a cogent line of logic. Or are you just pondering life.
I'll say this, the more things change, the more they stay the same.
The unchangeable comes in many forms.
 
Old 10-31-2018, 08:52 PM
 
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Eh....you forgot an apparently large portion of women who proudly are expressly NOT feminists - they never needed it, never wanted it and don't seem to like anyone who thinks there is such a need. That doesn't necessarily mean they are "traditional" but they are anti-feminist. Not sure there is a parallel category for men....
Maybe what you are saying is that the vast majority are in the middle?
 
Old 10-31-2018, 09:34 PM
 
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Does anyone else think that sometimes people can be categorized into two types, either feminist or traditional?

I think that society has slowly been going into a more feminist trend throughout history. There have been peaks and valleys, but I think that is the general trend. I've always thought that it was healthy and good whenever a woman wanted to become a career professional, and even become a manager type. I've never liked women who wanted to act subservient, especially to men.

More traditional women might be successful in the professional world, but they might tend to be the kind who had sexual affairs in an attempt to become successful.

Feminist women are definitely NOT men hating. But they may not like men who are more traditional or what we might think of as the "cowboy" type.

I think that sometimes even some lesbians might have a lot of respect for feminist men. Or they may have a negative view of traditional men. And they might fit more into the feminist category, if that makes sense.

Anyway, I don't know if any of what I said has made sense, but I'm curious if anyone else has ever thought about this, and how people can fall more into one of these two categories.
Not just two, no. Much too limited. Why even bother trying to categorize other people?
 
Old 11-01-2018, 09:25 AM
 
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Not just two, no. Much too limited. Why even bother trying to categorize other people?
It's not the only category. There is also male and female. Right wing and left wing. Etc.
 
Old 11-01-2018, 10:21 AM
 
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If a woman expects to be paid the same wages for the same work, and expect to have the same rights, and equal footing when it comes to competing in the job market then they are de facto Feminist no matter what political belief they spout. Of course if they don't believe that then sure they are not feminist
 
Old 11-01-2018, 10:31 AM
 
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If a woman expects to be paid the same wages for the same work, and expect to have the same rights, and equal footing when it comes to competing in the job market then they are de facto Feminist no matter what political belief they spout. Of course if they don't believe that then sure they are not feminist
This is how I feel about it. I've run into the anti-feminist women only very rarely, mostly on the internet (incl. here on C-D). They DO expect equal pay for equal work, equal opportunity for job advancement, protection from sexual harassment on the job, and to be taken seriously in life in general. Yet they insist they're not feminists, which is completely illogical. Whether they agree or not, others will view them as feminists.

And they never explain what "feminist" means to them, that they feel compelled to reject the label. They must be projecting some kind of baggage, obviously some kind of negative stereotype, onto the label, but that's on them, for erroneously equating feminism with whatever. All it means, is people who feel they should have the right to vote, the right to work on an equal footing with men with similar qualifications, the right to have a bank account and credit card, etc.
 
Old 11-01-2018, 11:44 AM
 
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Does anyone else think that sometimes people can be categorized into two types, either feminist or traditional?

I think that society has slowly been going into a more feminist trend throughout history. There have been peaks and valleys, but I think that is the general trend. I've always thought that it was healthy and good whenever a woman wanted to become a career professional, and even become a manager type. I've never liked women who wanted to act subservient, especially to men.

More traditional women might be successful in the professional world, but they might tend to be the kind who had sexual affairs in an attempt to become successful.
Seriously?
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