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Old 12-16-2018, 07:53 PM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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Twist in Green Beret’s Extraordinary Story: Trump’s Intervention After Murder Charges

A Green Beret killed a Taliban bomb maker, I believe, in 2011. Five years after imposing minor discipline, to quote the above-referenced NY Times article, "(t)he Army opened a second investigation in late 2016, and charged Major Golsteyn with murder last week." President Trump, the Commander-in-Chief, to his credit is standing with his troops, and may intervene, while the Times whines:
I guess the Times cares more about a Talib than a Yank.

You (and I) can only speculate as to why the Army determined this was an improper killing. It sounds as if this wasn't a battle killing, but more of an assassination. If that is the case, whether he is a decorated Green Beret or not, he is not above the law, and we are a nation of laws. War crimes can not be tolerated, regardless.

I realize it is easy for us to say "Green Beret good, Taliban guy bad", but there must be more to this than we know, otherwise, the Army would not have reopened the investigation. They are not out to get their own.

But, I realize also that you prefer to put your slant on it that the NYT is more worried about the Taliban than the Army guy, however, all they are doing is reporting what they know.
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Old 12-16-2018, 07:53 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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If you had of ever served yourself, you would have heard of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, something Trump, nor you, know anything about.
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Old 12-16-2018, 07:58 PM
 
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But Major Golsteyn and another American soldier, concerned that the man, if released, would kill American troops or report that the tribal leader was working with the Americans, took him off the base, shot and killed him, and buried his remains in a shallow grave, the documents say.
That sounds like murder to me.
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Old 12-16-2018, 08:09 PM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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Why can't Trump just keep his big mouth shut and just wait until after the trial is over before he proceeds to do what he wishes whether it be a pardon or not.
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Old 12-16-2018, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Why can't Trump just keep his big mouth shut and just wait until after the trial is over before he proceeds to do what he wishes whether it be a pardon or not.
Because he is always campaigning. Beret good, Taliban bad is a vote getter.
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Old 12-16-2018, 08:15 PM
 
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If you had of ever served yourself, you would have heard of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, something Trump, nor you, know anything about.
Exactly. Something we all swore to uphold and this guy broke it.
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Old 12-16-2018, 08:22 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Why can't Trump just keep his big mouth shut and just wait until after the trial is over before he proceeds to do what he wishes whether it be a pardon or not.
Because he is the Commander-in-Chief and as such, his opinion matters.

Next.
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Old 12-16-2018, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Why can't Trump just keep his big mouth shut and just wait until after the trial is over before he proceeds to do what he wishes whether it be a pardon or not.
Because then he wouldnt be Trump and things would be boring.
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Old 12-16-2018, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Because he is the Commander-in-Chief and as such, his opinion matters.

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Only to those who think it matters. It's always about policy.
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Old 12-16-2018, 08:37 PM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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Why can't Trump just keep his big mouth shut and just wait until after the trial is over before he proceeds to do what he wishes whether it be a pardon or not.

Trump is in survival mode right now, looking for any shred of something to replace the bad news about him that is coming out every day. He would be out kissing babies and helping Nuns cross the street if he thought it would help.
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