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Black Americans find it amusing that the "hispanic" demographic identifies as white, but at the same time brags that they are the "largest minority group" and demands most of the federal funding intended for minorities.
They literally add up "hispanic" numbers and use that statistic to demand government resources meant for minorities.
...but most of them are actually white. *scratches head*
I am hispanic, my grandmother is from northwest Mexico and my grandfather is from Cuba. I am also white, my grandfather’s family were labeled “evil white capitalists” by the Castro regime, they had their property taken from them by the state and were forced to flee to the US. For all intents and purposes the majority of Hispanics in the US identify as white. They are Castizos. So when the Democrats say that white men are a problem they are talking about Hispanic men! When they push socialism they are pushing the same ideas that forced many Hispanics to flee their home countries to begin with. Hispanics are also more religious than the population at large. So when they demonize Christianity they are demonizing many Hispanics. Hispanics are especially conservative on issues like abortion. In fact the only major city in the US with a conservative mayor is Miami which also happens to be the most Hispanic city and is the financial center for South America. Anyway my point is that Hispanics are far more conservative than Democrats would like you to believe.
Well if Democrats dont understand Hispanics then Republicans must be TOTALLY clueless about them because they continue to vote overwhelmingly Democrat.
"For all intents and purposes the majority of Hispanics in the US identify as white"
Well, the real white people in America appear to strongly disagree. Hence the push to build a wall to keep out all of those "whites" flooding in from Latin America.
"When they push socialism they are pushing the same ideas that forced many Hispanics to flee their home countries to begin with"
When you rely on right wing propoganda for your education about economics, the result is being totally clueless and prone to unwitting self mockery.
"Hispanics are also more religious than the population at large."
So are blacks, another culturally conservative group that likewise votes predominately Dem. In any event religion is becoming less important with time as younger generations are less religious.
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My criticism of the "hispanic" notion is more a criticism of identity politics and not they themselves. "Hispanics" are an ethnic group that was politically fabricated with an executive order from the President in the 70s - literally with a stroke of a pen they made up "hispanic". It was that contrived.
The OP thinks Democrats don't understand "Hispanics", but what can be understood about the "hispanic" demographic when it was a nonsense concept when it started? What does he expect people to understand, if they can't even define themselves. No two people would tell you the same thing.
The OP thinks its news that "hispanics" identify as white. Nope, in South West history, they were white long before they became "hispanic" minorities. Why are his "evil white capitalist" grandparents who were ousted from Cuba over here masquerading as minorities?
Furthermore, if most of them identify as white, why do they brag that they are the "largest minority group"?
I don't think "hispanic" is a concept that can be understood.
Oh, I don't know about that. You've ranted constantly about how some Tejanos were racist towards black people.
Anyway it's not productive to join the oppression Olympics and espouse that civil rights are exclusive for some groups and not others, like you've often posed - which is counterproductive at best.
Well if Democrats dont understand Hispanics then Republicans must be TOTALLY clueless about them because they continue to vote overwhelmingly Democrat.
"For all intents and purposes the majority of Hispanics in the US identify as white"
Well, the real white people in America appear to strongly disagree. Hence the push to build a wall to keep out all of those "whites" from flooding in from Latin America.
"When they push socialism they are pushing the same ideas that forced many Hispanics to flee their home countries to begin with"
When you rely on right wing propoganda for your education about economics, the result is being totally clueless and prone to unwitting self mockery.
"Hispanics are also more religious than the population at large."
So are blacks, another culturally conservative group that likewise votes predominately Dem. In any event religion is becoming less important with time as younger generations are less religious.
Pete Wilson tried to make it a wedge political issue to single out Latinos when he was desparate for reeelection as governor of California in 1994. It worked for him, but ruined the political fortunes of the CA Republicans since then.
That's a FACT. I didn't make that up. They were openly racist. Why does pointing that out make me a bigot?
I've never accused you of one, but harping about Latinos and Hispanics the way you do, makes you a useful idiot tool for reactionary racists who don't like African Americans AND Latinos, or anyone else who is the "other", like me (an Asian American).
Last edited by silverkris; 12-28-2018 at 06:35 PM..
I am hispanic, my grandmother is from northwest Mexico and my grandfather is from Cuba. I am also white, my grandfather’s family were labeled “evil white capitalists” by the Castro regime, they had their property taken from them by the state and were forced to flee to the US. For all intents and purposes the majority of Hispanics in the US identify as white. They are Castizos. So when the Democrats say that white men are a problem they are talking about Hispanic men! When they push socialism they are pushing the same ideas that forced many Hispanics to flee their home countries to begin with. Hispanics are also more religious than the population at large. So when they demonize Christianity they are demonizing many Hispanics. Hispanics are especially conservative on issues like abortion. In fact the only major city in the US with a conservative mayor is Miami which also happens to be the most Hispanic city and is the financial center for South America. Anyway my point is that Hispanics are far more conservative than Democrats would like you to believe.
Lol...nice try. That poor messaging didn't seem to stop 80% of Latinos from voting for Democrats this year.
Just for S&G, who do you think does worse messaging: Democrats to Latinos, Republicans to Latinos, or Republicans to Blacks?
Black Americans find it amusing that the "hispanic" demographic identifies as white, but at the same time brags that they are the "largest minority group" and demands most of the federal funding intended for minorities.
They literally add up "hispanic" numbers and use that statistic to demand government resources meant for minorities.
...but most of them are actually white. *scratches head*
Not really. Most of the Latinos in California call themselves "brown".
My criticism of the "hispanic" notion is more a criticism of identity politics and not they themselves. "Hispanics" are an ethnic group that was politically fabricated with an executive order from the President in the 70s - literally with a stroke of a pen they made up "hispanic". It was that contrived.
The OP thinks Democrats don't understand "Hispanics", but what can be understood about the "hispanic" demographic when it was a nonsense concept when it started? What does he expect people to understand, if they can't even define themselves. No two people would tell you the same thing.
The OP thinks its news that "hispanics" identify as white. Nope, in South West history, they were white long before they became "hispanic" minorities. Why are his "evil white capitalist" grandparents who were ousted from Cuba over here masquerading as minorities?
Furthermore, if most of them identify as white, why do they brag that they are the "largest minority group"?
I don't think "hispanic" is a concept that can be understood.
Who cares? People can self-identify themselves the way they want to, regardless of what you think. We tend to use the term Latino/Latina more often in California, or by their specific community group, such as Mexican, Salvadorian, Puerto Rican, Colombian, Cuban, etc. Maybe in Florida they use Hispanic more often.
My criticism of the "hispanic" notion is more a criticism of identity politics and not they themselves. "Hispanics" are an ethnic group that was politically fabricated with an executive order from the President in the 70s - literally with a stroke of a pen they made up "hispanic". It was that contrived.
The OP thinks Democrats don't understand "Hispanics", but what can be understood about the "hispanic" demographic when it was a nonsense concept when it started? What does he expect people to understand, if they can't even define themselves. No two people would tell you the same thing.
The OP thinks its news that "hispanics" identify as white. Nope, in South West history, they were white long before they became "hispanic" minorities. Why are his "evil white capitalist" grandparents who were ousted from Cuba over here masquerading as minorities?
Furthermore, if most of them identify as white, why do they brag that they are the "largest minority group"?
I don't think "hispanic" is a concept that can be understood.
And yet that hasn't stopped Conservatives from using that "fake" grouping to demonize immigrants from that background. If you're concerned that people are identifying with the label, then maybe challenge the people driving Americans towards that label.
And from a purely scientific angle, there's more genetic diversity among the group we call "Blacks" than the group we call "Hispanic."
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