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View Poll Results: Are you happy with Trump’s deal to reopen the Federal government for 3 weeks?
I’m happy with the deal 41 36.61%
It’s ok 50 44.64%
I’m unhappy with this deal 21 18.75%
Voters: 112. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-05-2019, 02:29 PM
 
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Then they will be fired and lose their health insurance and other benefits if they don't show up. This is part of the deal if you perform certain types of work in the government. Don't show up, you will lose your job.
They should file a class action lawsuit. I'm sorry, the government does not have the right to treat people as slaves. Pay your employees or don't expect them to show up. No excuse for late paychecks.
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Old 01-05-2019, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Mount Airy, Maryland
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Spent the day in DC driving for Uber. People down there are PISSED at the President. Talking politics in a rideshare is off limits but that rule didn't apply today. Several said they voted for Trump and are regretting that decision.
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Old 01-05-2019, 02:34 PM
 
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You can't expect people to show up to work if they're not being paid. And no, they shouldn't take the word of anyone they will get backpay.
Especially from a soul less President who stated the "safety net " for these folks will be ..the Wall.

The man has zero awareness how the Country lives.

Waiting for the greatest lawless president in the history of the modern world..to get his American frontier style ass whooping reserved for the highest of traitor s.
He 'll be the 1st.
Winning.
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Old 01-05-2019, 02:37 PM
 
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But that's probably a subject for another thread....
Good Old Texas - won't do E-Verify

Good Ole Texas has e-Verify for public employers and contractors. It's California that won't do e-Verify, even made it against the law for a local jurisdiction to require e-Verify. Like police cooperation with ICE, the state of California not only refuses to fight illegal immigration but legislatively prohibits localities from it.
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Old 01-05-2019, 02:37 PM
 
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Actually, they do a very similar thing. The reason employers love immigrant labor so is that they can stiff them. I know of many situations where this happened.

It's quite a regular thing to string along such an employee for weeks and then show them the door. What are they going to do about it - go to the national labor board?

But that's probably a subject for another thread....
Good Old Texas - won't do E-Verify

https://www.texastribune.org/2016/12...migrant-labor/
“The fact that they're in the shadows makes them vulnerable,” said Bill Beardall, executive director of the Equal Justice Center, a nonprofit law firm that represents low-wage workers in Texas.

And he would know: A large portion of the center’s cases involve unpaid and underpaid wages to immigrant workers. "

So, yeah, the private sector loves such a thing....and does it with impunity.
No, legally, which is what we are talking about here, the private sector cannot do what the feds are doing right now.

And yes, anyone who feels they have not gotten the wages they are owed, files a complaint with WHD.
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Old 01-05-2019, 02:38 PM
 
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They should file a class action lawsuit. I'm sorry, the government does not have the right to treat people as slaves. Pay your employees or don't expect them to show up. No excuse for late paychecks.

Sorry, the federal courts are closed.
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Old 01-05-2019, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Actually, they do a very similar thing. The reason employers love immigrant labor so is that they can stiff them. I know of many situations where this happened.

It's quite a regular thing to string along such an employee for weeks and then show them the door. What are they going to do about it - go to the national labor board?

But that's probably a subject for another thread....
Good Old Texas - won't do E-Verify

https://www.texastribune.org/2016/12...migrant-labor/
“The fact that they're in the shadows makes them vulnerable,” said Bill Beardall, executive director of the Equal Justice Center, a nonprofit law firm that represents low-wage workers in Texas.

And he would know: A large portion of the center’s cases involve unpaid and underpaid wages to immigrant workers. "

So, yeah, the private sector loves such a thing....and does it with impunity.
Likely going to find millions of undocumented workers in the shadows of tens of thousands of businesses and households. They are often times engaged by small businesses either as independent contractors or employees.

Most want to benefit off cheap labor and then turn around and blame the government for the consequences.

Even the handful of states that mandate eVerify, have intended loopholes to allow businesses to continue to employ undocumented people when they are contractors/day laborers. Sweet! Avoid Payroll taxes and labor laws and pay cash.

Illegal immigration became a tidal wave in the 80's and peaked in 2005/6. Has not mattered who sat the oval or held the majority, they all kicked the can. That was no accident. Way too many benefits from cheap labor.
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Old 01-05-2019, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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I didn't know anyone used E-Verify.
It is used but it isn't really effective, that is the issue with it. I mean the work around is doing business under the table and cash only, but that is breaking the law.
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Old 01-05-2019, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Good Ole Texas has e-Verify for public employers and contractors. It's California that won't do e-Verify, even made it against the law for a local jurisdiction to require e-Verify. Like police cooperation with ICE, the state of California not only refuses to fight illegal immigration but legislatively prohibits localities from it.
Texas, like most states. imposes no such " burden" on the private sector, which represents the vast majority of employers in the state.
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Old 01-05-2019, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Likely going to find millions of undocumented workers in the shadows of tens of thousands of businesses and households. They are often times engaged by small businesses either as independent contractors or employees.

Most want to benefit off cheap labor and then turn around and blame the government for the consequences.

Even the handful of states that mandate eVerify, have intended loopholes to allow businesses to continue to employ undocumented people when they are contractors/day laborers. Sweet! Avoid Payroll taxes and labor laws and pay cash.

Illegal immigration became a tidal wave in the 80's and peaked in 2005/6. Has not mattered who sat the oval or held the majority, they all kicked the can. That was no accident. Way too many benefits from cheap labor.
Even Trump does but he won't talk about that despite being proven a hypocrite even in the same presser like yesterday on how close a deal was...
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