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How would reparations work? If you pay the present generation to atone for the sins of the past, what about upcoming generations? Will they get a piece of the action as well? Is this a forever thing?
Reparations should come for the treatment of Black people STARTING with slavery and continuing THROUGH Jim Crow America and whatever's legacies were left behind after the CRM.
Black people were literally barred from accessing the biggest source of American net worth for decades, and that's a debt that might even be a bigger financial hit than the generations of slavery Black people lived through.
Reparations should come for the treatment of Black people STARTING with slavery and continuing THROUGH Jim Crow America and whatever's legacies were left behind after the CRM.
Black people were literally barred from accessing the biggest source of American net worth for decades, and that's a debt that might even be a bigger financial hit than the generations of slavery Black people lived through.
Too bad. Tough ****.
My ancestors didn't do the slavin'...and welfare has been pushed out by the trillions by now.
I am sorry but they aren't owed anything. They were born in America - much better than being born in Haiti or Liberia, so they need to stop b******* and stop looking for freebies.
My ancestors didn't do the slavin'...and welfare has been pushed out by the trillions by now.
I am sorry but they aren't owed anything. They were born in America - much better than being born in Haiti or Liberia, so they need to stop b******* and stop looking for freebies.
Tough **** isn't an argument that's going to win the day for yall. Even if y'all didn't do slavin', you benefited from the system that barred participation from Black people.
At least no one's asking YOU to pay that burden. The govt sponsored it, so it's on them to settle the bill.
I don't think Affirmative Action is the right answer by any means, but let's not pretend it is any "great equalizer".
The biggest issue is that we address these issues WAY too late. You can't address these problems in college. Or even High School. We need to do more to educate our young minority children about different opportunities they have.
I mentor a young black kid from a disadvantaged school weekly at my work (through a "giving back" program that we run for the local community), and honestly the biggest issue you need to overcome is psychological. You can tell that he was never shown that science is something he COULD do. It is an option for him. He is young and bright, and he gets it. But I worry once he grows up where he will go from there...because I know he has never had this attention previously. Nor been shown the options he has in life.
Let's give up the act that because slavery is long over, or that Jim Crow was last century, that everything went back to being equal. Those communities will be living with those legacies for generations. It's very hard to undo that kind of damage, much less what is essentially overnight from a human generational perspective.
Agree with you so much here. But the government can't take little black kids out of homes where smoking weed and playing video games take up more time than doing homework. That would start to look very orwellian or draconian. Most of the things that could be done to truly fix the issues in the landed black underclass would come across as massive government overreach. Answers like reparations would achieve absolutely zero...the same people at the bottom would mostly still be there because they have no idea how to build wealth, so in ten years it would just be a giant failure like the Great Society.
Our local news channel had a discussion about "reparations" on Sunday. I thought the one speaker, Bob Woodson nailed it. We need more people like him speaking up.
Reparations should come for the treatment of Black people STARTING with slavery and continuing THROUGH Jim Crow America and whatever's legacies were left behind after the CRM.
Black people were literally barred from accessing the biggest source of American net worth for decades, and that's a debt that might even be a bigger financial hit than the generations of slavery Black people lived through.
OK. They were barred from the biggest source of net worth for decades. That hasn’t been the case for two generations. That’s plenty of time for the generation with no money to raise the next generation, and that generation can go to college - or at least community college to establish a lower-middle lifestyle - and then the third generation can be college graduates with professional degrees. It takes sacrifice, hard work, motivation, discipline, and yes, emphasis on making correct choices and having the right values.
If Asians can arrive here penniless, and Jews can arrive here penniless, and both groups succeed in spite of prejudice against them, so can blacks. And the majority do - they’re middle class or better.
Easy problem to solve - if you're black and genealogists can trace your lineage IN AMERICA to the 1870 Census, then you get paid reparations, if you're black and your family came after that, you DON'T get reparations. You guys are turning this into rocket science, when it's NOT.
The thing about the reparations idea is that it will do NOTHING and actually have a negative effect on POC. In order to pay reparations, taxpayers will have to pony up the money with higher taxes. POC also pay taxes so they'll basically be paying for their own reparations.
The problem I have with reparations is the vast majority of Americans had nothing to do with slavery. Only small fraction even owned slaves. Why should the vast majority pay for the sins of a few? Also, what amount would be acceptable if we did pay reparations? How would that be determined?
Tough **** isn't an argument that's going to win the day for yall. Even if y'all didn't do slavin', you benefited from the system that barred participation from Black people.
At least no one's asking YOU to pay that burden. The govt sponsored it, so it's on them to settle the bill.
Where do you think "The govt" gets it's money from??? HELLLLOOOOO, the TAXPAYERS!!! It blows my mind how many people don't know how this works.
OK. They were barred from the biggest source of net worth for decades. That hasn’t been the case for two generations. That’s plenty of time for the generation with no money to raise the next generation, and that generation can go to college - or at least community college to establish a lower-middle lifestyle - and then the third generation can be college graduates with professional degrees. It takes sacrifice, hard work, motivation, discipline, and yes, emphasis on making correct choices and having the right values.
If Asians can arrive here penniless, and Jews can arrive here penniless, and both groups succeed in spite of prejudice against them, so can blacks. And the majority do - they’re middle class or better.
Unfortunately that's not how housing booms work. That's two generations of compounded wealth, wealth that was used to set up the next generation w a leg up on their peers. You can't recover that lost wealth, especially when the initial buy-in period has long gone and the jump on point afterwards gets more and more expensive, for less and less return.
This is like not only Black people being barred from buying Google stock at its IPO, but everyone else getting free money to buy those stocks. Then fast forward into the future, the people sitting on decade's worth of Google's return telling Black people who were barred from buying it... well buy it now.
Imagine someone who bought Google at $95/share telling people that buying it at $2,000/share evens the scorecards...
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