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Old 01-08-2019, 08:03 AM
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That's their own faults for not cleaning up their neighborhoods by working with the police to arrest the bad guys who are threatening their lives. They WANT to live like that.
Ask any 10 year old inner city black kid and I bet they disagree. Once again, telling black people how they think and why. How is it that you know them better than they know themselves?

 
Old 01-08-2019, 08:08 AM
 
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It's the TRUTH....the truth is "How that works".
Not really. It might be part of the truth, but it certainly isn't the whole truth. Do you not acknowledge that there are other factors that lead to the results you posted BESIDES white oppression? Factors that have nothing to do at all with white oppression? Do you not acknowledge that some of the same problems in the black community we see in America are still going on in Africa?
 
Old 01-08-2019, 08:09 AM
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Mostly all killed by other black guys.
Some might argue that's the case because the NRA is a very effective lobbyist for the firearms industry. Some poor people, no matter what color, are going to resort to criminality. It's because they're poor not because they're black.
 
Old 01-08-2019, 08:11 AM
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Not really. It might be part of the truth, but it certainly isn't the whole truth. Do you not acknowledge that there are other factors that lead to the results you posted BESIDES white oppression? Factors that have nothing to do at all with white oppression? Do you not acknowledge that some of the same problems in the black community we see in America are still going on in Africa?
So what? It's genetic? That's abhorrent. And very, very wrong. Most of "Post-Colonial" Africa's problems are in fact due to white people.
 
Old 01-08-2019, 08:12 AM
 
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Which you'll agree is hard to escape.
Because something is hard is not an excuse to just give up. It's just not. Life's not fair. The excuse making is a big part of the problem.
 
Old 01-08-2019, 08:14 AM
 
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So what? It's genetic? That's abhorrent. And very, very wrong. Most of "Post-Colonial" Africa's problems are in fact due to white people.
Maybe. Maybe part cultural I don't know exactly. But I do know blaming it all on whitey is going to keep you right where you are.
 
Old 01-08-2019, 08:15 AM
 
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Not really. It might be part of the truth, but it certainly isn't the whole truth. Do you not acknowledge that there are other factors that lead to the results you posted BESIDES white oppression? Factors that have nothing to do at all with white oppression? Do you not acknowledge that some of the same problems in the black community we see in America are still going on in Africa?

You can't say that some factors have NOTHING to do with a control group. Ergo, absent a situation where blacks have not been oppressed in this country, how would blacks behave? Oh....wait....what about the Africans who immigrate to America. They seem to do a lot better than African Americans. They certainly seem to have a different CULTURE, yet, they are "black". Indeed, African Americans started off as just Africans....with African Culture.....until this land and the people controlling it changed us to what we are today. The Africans, minus this exposure, seem to do much better in America.
 
Old 01-08-2019, 08:19 AM
 
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Maybe. Maybe part cultural I don't know exactly. But I do know blaming it all on whitey is going to keep you right where you are.
Maybe some of them like where they are. A righteous grievance is as good as gold in some circles.
 
Old 01-08-2019, 08:20 AM
 
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September 18, 2017

Americans, especially wealthy whites, vastly overestimate progress toward racial economic equality despite evidence of persistent gaps between black and white workers when it comes to hourly wages, annual income and household wealth
Unequal results do not mean unequal opportunity. Why is this concept so difficult for those on the left.

The NBA is nearly 90% black. Does that mean the there is racism towards whites? NO!!!!!!! Unequal results do not mean unequal opportunity.

Many migrants from India with tanned skin make more money than whites. Does that mean there is Indian privilege and that whites are discriminated? NO!!!!!!!! Unequal results does not mean unequal opportunity.

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Assuming victimhood leads to depression, low self esteem, anger, and tribalism.
 
Old 01-08-2019, 08:21 AM
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You can't say that some factors have NOTHING to do with a control group. Ergo, absent a situation where blacks have not been oppressed in this country, how would blacks behave? Oh....wait....what about the Africans who immigrate to America. They seem to do a lot better than African Americans. They certainly seem to have a different CULTURE, yet, they are "black". Indeed, African Americans started off as just Africans....with African Culture.....until this land and the people controlling it changed us to what we are today. The Africans, minus this exposure, seem to do much better in America.
This is my point made better than I could. I can't tell black people how long it should take them to recover from slavery. They are the only ones who know what it takes. No one else. We see that, unarguably, it takes longer than 150 years.

Serfs in medieval Europe had a very similar take on life, I'm sure. At some point that past became the past and it will for black people too. I can't say how long it should take, and no other judgmental white people can either.
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