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Old 01-20-2019, 03:25 PM
 
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Folks like you HATED the peacenik liberals anyway, so who the hell are you kidding?

We’re in Iraq and Afghanistan because if Dubya...a man you voted for twice. Knock it off.

Liberals in Congress are for the status quo because they are fools...but if Al Gore had won the presidency, we wouldn’t have went to Iraq and I doubt Afghanistan would’ve become the entrenched cluster**** that it’s become over nearly two decades.

I don’t care who you know or work with. You were never a member of the institution so you really can’t speak accurately about service members and their politics. You’re just giving a fictionalized account based on your preconceived notions because you want conservatives to look good.

It’s bunk. The average conservative is neither courageous nor selfless.
Of course, you don't know this. Maybe not Iraq, but after 9/11 it's not hard to believe that there would be no military campaign in Afghanistan.

Last edited by Absolom; 01-20-2019 at 04:17 PM.. Reason: Left out a word.
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Old 01-21-2019, 11:18 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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Funny how the same side that was associated with the peace movement of the 60s is now so actively promoting military intervention, and the sacrifice of American lives, all around the world.
JFK pulled that stunt over the "missile gap" and Quemoy and Matsu.
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Old 01-21-2019, 11:22 AM
 
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Of course, you don't know this. Maybe not Iraq, but after 9/11 it's not hard to believe that there would be no military campaign in Afghanistan.
A full blown military campaign was unnecessary in Afghanistan. All we needed there was SOCOM.
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Old 01-21-2019, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Texas
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You will not get many responses in this thread, because most liberal citizens do not approve of our military actions. When you see protests across the country against our wars, it is always liberal citizens.

The difference you are seeing is in politicians vs citizens which is why all politicians are the same.
I think we need to pull all our bases back and quit meddling in other countries affairs.

Politicians on the take on the other hand have different ideas.

You would have better luck in attacking the defense sector lobbyists than politicians if you want to see real change....
Then why do liberals vote for the war mongers. Name me a democratic president in the last 50 years that brought the troops home. Not Obama. That war monger escalated more than Bush.
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Old 01-21-2019, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Texas
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A full blown military campaign was unnecessary in Afghanistan. All we needed there was SOCOM.
Then why did you support the war monger Obama who didn't bring them home? Bcause he's black?
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Old 01-21-2019, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Folks like you HATED the peacenik liberals anyway, so who the hell are you kidding?
You hate them. Otherwise why vote in war mongers? Because they are black?

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We’re in Iraq and Afghanistan because if Dubya...a man you voted for twice. Knock it off.
And we're still in Afghanistan because of Obama. A man you hypocritically voted for twice because he's black.

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Liberals in Congress are for the status quo because they are fools...but if Al Gore had won the presidency, we wouldn’t have went to Iraq and I doubt Afghanistan would’ve become the entrenched cluster**** that it’s become over nearly two decades.
Why would he keep his word when all the others haven't? Because you said so? You say a lot of things.

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I don’t care who you know or work with. You were never a member of the institution so you really can’t speak accurately about service members and their politics.
It's not your call. Especially when you're hypocritical on the issue. Why listen to you?

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You’re just giving a fictionalized account based on your preconceived notions because you want conservatives to look good.
That's your preconcieved notion.

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It’s bunk. The average conservative is neither courageous nor selfless.
Except we're not hypocritical like you. You're anti war yet you vote for the war mongers. Why it all makes sense.
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Old 01-21-2019, 07:31 PM
 
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Then why did you support the war monger Obama who didn't bring them home? Bcause he's black?
Yep. The same reason why you voted against him.
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Old 01-26-2019, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Planet Telex
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Yep. The same reason why you voted against him.
Damn. Can't rep you again, but quoted for truth.
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Old 01-26-2019, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Madison, WI
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Libertarians are the only ones who have been consistently anti-war. The left used to be, but that kind of went out the window with Obama.

I truly wish people cared more about war than political correctness and identity politics. It's so much more important than the things they're complaining about with Trump.
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Old 01-26-2019, 03:11 PM
 
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Then why do liberals vote for the war mongers. Name me a democratic president in the last 50 years that brought the troops home. Not Obama. That war monger escalated more than Bush.
It is part of the charade.
The same special interests exist on both "teams".

Another example is Occupy Wall Street.
The "Dems" were in power and yet it proved, the politicians were more beholden to the banksters than the voters when noone high up in the finance sector was punished.
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