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Old 01-29-2019, 11:42 AM
 
Location: WI/MN resident
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States like Wisconsin, Michigan, and Minnesota have remained politically purple, while southern states are still very Republican. I know the Midwest is trending Republican, while a good portion of the U.S. South is trending Democratic, but the Republican trend in the Midwest seems to be reversing or staying stagnant post-Trump.

Based on the demographics of the U.S. South, I'm shocked that the region is still redder than the Midwest. For example: States like Georgia and Texas are VERY diverse, but Democrats have a hard time winning statewide elections in those states. But some very white states like Wisconsin and Minnesota have no issue with getting Democrats elected in their states. Even lily white Montana (which isn't in the Midwest) elects Democrats. How does a very black state like Mississippi get a white supremacist elected statewide? I will never understand the U.S. South.
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Old 01-29-2019, 11:45 AM
 
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States like Wisconsin, Michigan, and Minnesota have remained politically purple, while southern states are still very Republican. I know the Midwest is trending Republican, while a good portion of the U.S. South is trending Democratic, but the Republican trend in the Midwest seems to be reversing or staying stagnant post-Trump.

Based on the demographics of the U.S. South, I'm shocked that the region is still redder than the Midwest. For example: States like Georgia and Texas are VERY diverse, but Democrats have a hard time winning statewide elections in those states. But some very white states like Wisconsin and Minnesota have no issue with getting Democrats elected in their states. Even lily white Montana (which isn't in the Midwest) elects Democrats. How does a very black state like Mississippi get a white supremacist elected statewide? I will never understand the U.S. South.

In the South, a big part of the population who normally would support Democrats don't vote.

In the Midwest, they do vote (at least more than the South).


This is why the Republicans' strategy in every election is to suppress votes. If more people vote, more people will vote Democrats.

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Old 01-29-2019, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Brew City
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For starters, the Midwest is more educated. We also have a long history with labor unions. Plus our heritage is Germany, Scandinavian, etc. and we're much less religious.
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Old 01-29-2019, 11:51 AM
 
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For starters, the Midwest is more educated. We also have a long history with labor unions. Plus our heritage is Germany, Scandinavian, etc. and we're much less religious.
True. And Wisconsin was the birthplace of the Progressive Party, too.
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Old 01-29-2019, 11:52 AM
 
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Fewer rural voters in some of the mid-western states compared to non-rural voters.

More Christian Conservative voters in the south.
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Old 01-29-2019, 11:52 AM
 
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Religion. End of thread.

The Southern Baptist church is deeply entrenched in the South and Baptists vote Republican primarily based on their opposition to abortion and LGBTQ rights. Since 9/11 the idea of white Christian nationalism and America as a white Christian nation has gained more momentum as well (see David Barton, Wallbuilders). Many Baptists take their politics as far as to preach that if a person votes for a Democrat (the party of abortion and sexual deviancy) they will be held personally responsible when standing before God for the death of every aborted baby and the abominations of every sexual deviant. That's a lot of incentive to vote Republican.

That is why the South is so Republican.
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Old 01-29-2019, 11:55 AM
 
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Religion. End of thread.

The Southern Baptist church is deeply entrenched in the South and Baptists vote Republican primarily based on their opposition to abortion and LGBTQ rights. Since 9/11 the idea of white Christian nationalism and America as a white Christian nation has gained more momentum as well (see David Barton, Wallbuilders). Many Baptists take their politics as far as to preach that if a person votes for a Democrat (the party of abortion and sexual deviancy) they will be held personally responsible when standing before God for the death of every aborted baby and the abominations of every sexual deviant. That's a lot of incentive to vote Republican.

That is why the South is so Republican.
Very true.
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Old 01-29-2019, 12:03 PM
 
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In the South, a big part of the population who normally would support Democrats don't vote.

In the Midwest, they do vote (at least more than the South).


This is why the Republicans' strategy in every election is to suppress votes. If more people vote, more people will vote Democrats.

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The first part of this comment is accurate.

One has to understand the social makeup of the South to understand the phenomenon. In the South, many poor and underclass people, both white and black who are or would be Democrats are simply apolitical and do not vote. Therefore the electorate is dominated by better off people who vote Republican.
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Old 01-29-2019, 12:10 PM
 
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Much of the Midwest consists of people descended from German, Scandinavian and other 19th Century (non-British Isles) European immigrants, even in many of the rural areas. Many of these immigrants came from middle class shopkeepers, merchants, and various professionals who, even for their time, tended to have a more liberal outlook in life. They also tended to be less religious than most Americans. These attitudes have been handed down over the generations.

White Southerners (and, white Midwesterners who are descended from white Southerners) are essentially a completely different "breed." IMO most of the US's conservative-ness is a result of these particular people. Few of them are descended from non-British Isles immigrants.

I would even argue that conservative-ness in, say, rural Nebraska is different from conservative-ness in, say, rural Alabama.

The Forty-Eighters from Germany are a great example. A huge chunk of the Midwest is of German stock:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forty-Eighters
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The Forty-Eighters were Europeans who participated in or supported the revolutions of 1848 that swept Europe. In the German states, the Forty-Eighters favored unification of the German people, a more democratic government, and guarantees of human rights.[1] Disappointed at the failure of the revolution to bring about the reform of the system of government in Germany or the Austrian Empire and sometimes on the government's wanted list because of their involvement in the revolution, they gave up their old lives to try again abroad. Many emigrated to the United States, the United Kingdom, and Australia after the revolutions failed. These emigrants included Germans, Czechs, Hungarians, and others. Many were respected and politically active, wealthy, and well-educated. A large number went on to be very successful in their new countries.
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Old 01-29-2019, 12:10 PM
 
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It is because the Midwest has always been more educated and far less bigoted than the South.
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