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Old 02-06-2019, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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I think Catholicism would be the best one. In fact the perfect one.
Did you read about the nuns being raped and being used as sex slaves?

Yeah perfect.

 
Old 02-06-2019, 10:05 AM
 
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This is absolutely permitted under NY law.

This is a really dense take on the law and you know it...but Pubs are all about misrepresentations. Abortion post 24 weeks is only allowed if:

"After 24 weeks, such decisions must be made with a determination that there is an “absence of fetal viability” or that the procedure is “necessary to protect the patient’s life or health.” That determination must be made by a “health care practitioner licensed, certified, or authorized” under state law, “acting within his or her lawful scope of practice.”



So either a dead or will die baby or a pregnancy that will kill the mother. Tell me exactly what mother will hold on to a pregnancy she will die from, only to abort the baby immediately prior to its birth?

You are all insane. Lie lie lie lie lie lie lie. Its all you do.
 
Old 02-06-2019, 10:06 AM
 
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I think Catholicism would be the best one. In fact the perfect one.
This is the belief system that condemns masturbation, correct?
 
Old 02-06-2019, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Where my bills arrive
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Events in classrooms are always accommodating to Jehovah's Witnesses.

No bday or holiday parties allowed if there is a JH in the class.

Why is that allowed?
Years ago those children not allowed to participate due to their parents faith would leave the room/go home early when a party was planned. As my wife told me the hurt in those kindergarteners eyes made you want to cry, tey are just too young to understand eternal damnation in hell for eating a cup cake with candy corn on it.

Today most class parties are banned due to family faith, allergies, healthy nutrition guidelines, lack of parent involvement the list goes on and on. When only 2 people us and the class mom provided for a 4th grade party we told her never again, let every kid go home and tell their parents that its their fault they can't have parties....
 
Old 02-06-2019, 10:08 AM
 
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Events in classrooms are always accommodating to Jehovah's Witnesses.

No bday or holiday parties allowed if there is a JH in the class.

Why is that allowed?
My sons school doesn't do this. He has had many JW in his classes and they still have holiday and BD parties.
 
Old 02-06-2019, 10:08 AM
 
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Oh, believe me. I don't think it can happen. Not into today's godless climate. America will have to endure a cataclysm in order to come around to where such an amendment is even possible. Think, WW3, a Depression, famine, and a hurricane all rolled up into one.
Nothing would make such an amendment happen.

The protection that the First Amendment gives us is too valuable. Only a few control-freaks want something like this, and they will NEVER succeed.
 
Old 02-06-2019, 10:09 AM
 
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Events in classrooms are always accommodating to Jehovah's Witnesses.

No bday or holiday parties allowed if there is a JH in the class.

Why is that allowed?
That's not true. Different districts have different rules.
 
Old 02-06-2019, 10:13 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Do me a favor Burdell, google "secular definition", and read the definition to me.

Secular simply means "not religious in nature". Secular does not imply either the existence or absence of values, beliefs, identity, ideology, doctrine, morals, or anything else.

A secular-government has whatever values it claims to have for the moment, and it can completely change those values the following day. Because its values aren't based in anything.

Whatever is considered "good" under a secular government, is merely what the government proclaims to be good. And the values in one secular government could be opposite those of another.


The only value in a secular-government is power. And that is the only reason they exist.

Your statement was not about a secular government, it was "Secularism has no values, no beliefs, no identity, no ideology, no doctrine, no morals." Implying only those religious in nature have "values, beliefs, identity, ideology, doctrine, morals , or anything else" which is nonsense! There's NO reason to belief those who don't practice a religion have no values, beliefs, morals, et al.

Do me a favor and don't change your statements midstream.
 
Old 02-06-2019, 10:13 AM
 
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Do me a favor Burdell, google "secular definition", and read the definition to me.

Secular simply means "not religious in nature". Secular does not imply either the existence or absence of values, beliefs, identity, ideology, doctrine, morals, or anything else.

A secular-government has whatever values it claims to have for the moment, and it can completely change those values the following day. Because its values aren't based in anything.

Whatever is considered "good" under a secular government, is merely what the government proclaims to be good. And the values in one secular government could be opposite those of another.


The only value in a secular-government is power. And that is the only reason they exist.
The values in a secular government are what the people who make up that society value. To say that a secular government has no values is a semantics game. Governments are made up of people. And people have values, and the governments run by people make laws that reflect the values of those people.

The separation between state and church does not mean that the state is separated from the people. And often, a secular government is more reflective of the society as a whole. A theocratic society is often more reflective of the values of its theocratic leaders. I think we see that kind of division in Iran. Where the people are much more liberal than Iran's theocratic leaders.
 
Old 02-06-2019, 10:13 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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Its just so crazy that an entire voting base will post crap like this using blatant lies as the foundation for their posts. No the official religion of the US is not atheism...no abortions are not supported up until birth regardless of the health of the baby. Where the hell do you get this stuff? More importantly WHY do you do it? Is it mental illness?
Years and years of listening to Rush Limbaugh and watching Fox News takes a catastrophic toll on the brain and a person's ability to think critically.
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