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Old 02-13-2019, 08:25 PM
 
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So if some idiot texting while driving runs me off the road, can I sue the Apple store that sold the phone?
By suing the company like this, we are opening up the figurative gets to perhaps countless frivolous lawsuits against the company. Legit suits against a company should be reserved for things like workplace discrimination, harassment, and false advertising.
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Old 02-13-2019, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Richmond
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One of the dumbest excuses for a lawsuit ever. The 30 round mag was legal in Texas. The gun was bought in Texas and used in Texas. Even if the 30 rounder had been substituted with a Colorado-compliant 15 rounder, he could have bought as many 30 rounders as he wanted while in Texas. Magazines can be purchased with no background check in any state.

So if some idiot texting while driving runs me off the road, can I sue the Apple store that sold the phone?

I agree with you completely, how was the store to know the person was going to commit a crime with the gun.

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How was the sale illegal. The article was vague there. It said applicable laws. What laws? Why wasn’t that part expounded on?

I know why, as a gun dealer, that sale was not illegal.

Please explain, I am not being stupid. And I will admit I do not know the laws in Texas in regarding to buying a gun, but the only part that I could see as being illegal, would be in allowing a person to purchase a firearm, with an out-of-state license; for a in-state purchase. I thought that would require a in-state license.


If the gun was to be purchased in Texas and then had it shipped to a FFL dealer in Colorado, it could have been shipped with either no magazine or a 15 round magazine to still be compliant with Colorado's laws.


So please explain on how it was an illegal purchase.
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Old 02-13-2019, 08:31 PM
 
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As far as I know there is no TX or Federal law that says CO residents can't own or possess standard capacity magazines. They just can't purchase or import them in to CO. The state of CO can't dictate what someone can or can't do outside the state borders.
That's exactly right, and I win all my appeals in Texas courts, but you never know what you'll get. Mostly it's trial judges like this Karen Pozza who are off their rockers or in the pockets of certain trial lawyers.
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Old 02-13-2019, 08:32 PM
 
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Next up, people sue store that sold cigarettes to underaged teen after getting lung cancer from second hand smoke.
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Old 02-13-2019, 08:32 PM
 
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As far as I know there is no TX or Federal law that says CO residents can't own or possess standard capacity magazines. They just can't purchase or import them in to CO. The state of CO can't dictate what someone can or can't do outside the state borders.
If this is true, the article is wrong.

Are you so certain that procedures for gun sales using ID from other states don't require that BOTH laws be followed as per the article?

I wouldn't think you know more than the judge....but it's always possible. Point to a reputable source please.
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Old 02-13-2019, 08:34 PM
 
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Please explain, I am not being stupid. And I will admit I do not know the laws in Texas in regarding to buying a gun, but the only part that I could see as being illegal, would be in allowing a person to purchase a firearm, with an out-of-state license; for a in-state purchase. I thought that would require a in-state license.
Why would you need an instate license? Do you need an instate license to buy beer? Why would you need any license at all? You're not going to drive the gun. You don't even need a Texas driver's license if you want to DRIVE in Texas.
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Old 02-13-2019, 08:38 PM
 
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If this is true, the article is wrong.

Are you so certain that procedures for gun sales using ID from other states don't require that BOTH laws be followed as per the article?

I wouldn't think you know more than the judge....but it's always possible. Point to a reputable source please.
Of course, we're certain. Colorado cannot make laws binding on people in Texas.
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Old 02-13-2019, 08:41 PM
 
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Good.
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Old 02-13-2019, 08:42 PM
 
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Why would you need an instate license? Do you need an instate license to buy beer? Why would you need any license at all? You're not going to drive the gun. You don't even need a Texas driver's license if you want to DRIVE in Texas.
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If this is true, the article is wrong.

Are you so certain that procedures for gun sales using ID from other states don't require that BOTH laws be followed as per the article?

I wouldn't think you know more than the judge....but it's always possible. Point to a reputable source please.
I can't speak to the Texas laws, but I know in Virginia you can not buy a gun with a out-of-state drivers license. To buy the gun in Virginia and be able to walk out with it, you have to be a Virginia resident. If however you are from Colorado and want to buy the gun, and have it then shipped back to Colorado, that is possible, you would pay for in Virginia, the Virginia gun dealer would then priority overnight it to a FFL deal near that resident in Colorado.


The Colorado FFL gun dealer would then perform the background check on you, the NICS check; and you would pay the Colorado dealer a transfer fee.


The drivers license is only 1 of the accepted forms of Identification, but it is the primary. But Passport is another & so is Military Identification.
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Old 02-13-2019, 08:47 PM
 
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I agree with you completely, how was the store to know the person was going to commit a crime with the gun.




Please explain, I am not being stupid. And I will admit I do not know the laws in Texas in regarding to buying a gun, but the only part that I could see as being illegal, would be in allowing a person to purchase a firearm, with an out-of-state license; for a in-state purchase. I thought that would require a in-state license.


If the gun was to be purchased in Texas and then had it shipped to a FFL dealer in Colorado, it could have been shipped with either no magazine or a 15 round magazine to still be compliant with Colorado's laws.


So please explain on how it was an illegal purchase.
Long gun sales are not restricted by state residency. The sale of the magazines was not illegal either. The judge is stupid and does not the law. It will be overturned on appeal.
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