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Old 02-27-2019, 09:58 AM
 
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You wont still answer who is the "Left" . Because if you do, it will lead us to Wall Street for which both the parties tirelessly work. You are simply a poor people basher.
The Left is ANYONE on ANY STREET who defines their politics based on the bankrupt morality of altruism-collectivism. That means anyone who advocates for redistribution of wealth.

Poor people are poor by choice MOST of the time. Nobody has to be poor, they choose to be poor by NOT BEING RATIONAL. And when they choose to be poor, I am not in favor of LEFT wing solutions that involve stealing money from good people for the unearned and undeserved benefit of people who have made their own bed but want other people to pay for them avoiding having to sleep in it.

So Pocahantas, who is a phony lying thug, and has a bankrupt hating philosophy, is going to pull the Democrat party to the Left, and that is going to cause them to lose, lose, lose. At least I hope so.

Left = Hate
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Old 02-27-2019, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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The Left is ANYONE on ANY STREET who defines their politics based on the bankrupt morality of altruism-collectivism. That means anyone who advocates for redistribution of wealth.

Poor people are poor by choice MOST of the time. Nobody has to be poor, they choose to be poor by NOT BEING RATIONAL. And when they choose to be poor, I am not in favor of LEFT wing solutions that involve stealing money from good people for the unearned and undeserved benefit of people who have made their own bed but want other people to pay for them avoiding having to sleep in it.

So Pocahantas, who is a phony lying thug, and has a bankrupt hating philosophy, is going to pull the Democrat party to the Left, and that is going to cause them to lose, lose, lose. At least I hope so.

Left = Hate
The bolded is BS. If it were true, there would be no WalMart, no McDonald's, no Kroger etc because no one would work at those places if better higher paying jobs were available
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Old 02-27-2019, 02:02 PM
 
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The bolded is BS. If it were true, there would be no WalMart, no McDonald's, no Kroger etc because no one would work at those places if better higher paying jobs were available

Re: Poor people are poor by choice MOST of the time.



How do you define "by choice"?


If you held out your hand and offered someone a red pill to be poor or a blue pill to be rich, they will take the blue pill. No one would choose to be poor at any given moment.


But they are poor "by their choices" to not put in the work to get the reward, to spend their evening watching TV shows rather than attending a night class or even studying on their own. Higher paying jobs ARE available but not to the skill level of those working in the Walmarts or McD's.
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Old 02-27-2019, 02:50 PM
 
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The bolded is BS. If it were true, there would be no WalMart, no McDonald's, no Kroger etc because no one would work at those places if better higher paying jobs were available
And somebody who works at Walmart is not poor. You can make $30,000/yr at minimum wage if you get some overtime. Or more if you work 2 crap-class Walmart jobs. And as long as you haven’t made babies and become a drunk, you’re golden. In fact, the prototypical slob working 60 hours at Walmart class jobs lives better than 90% of the people on Earth.
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Old 02-27-2019, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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And somebody who works at Walmart is not poor. You can make $30,000/yr at minimum wage if you get some overtime. Or more if you work 2 crap-class Walmart jobs. And as long as you haven’t made babies and become a drunk, you’re golden. In fact, the prototypical slob working 60 hours at Walmart class jobs lives better than 90% of the people on Earth.
$30k/year is NOT good money around here, and this isn't San Francisco either....
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Old 02-27-2019, 04:06 PM
 
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$30k/year is NOT good money around here, and this isn't San Francisco either....
Of course it's not "good" money. Good money takes more talent and focus and hard work and drive and other good human qualities. But it's "good enough" money not to be poor, especially if you live frugally and with some discipline. And an entry level job is only supposed to be temporary until you get yourself improved and seek out better opportunities.
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Old 02-27-2019, 04:54 PM
 
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$30k/year is NOT good money around here, and this isn't San Francisco either....
According to him they should exist barely enough so they can pay the bills, rent and credit card debt. Just another classic classist.
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Old 02-27-2019, 04:59 PM
 
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The Left is ANYONE on ANY STREET who defines their politics based on the bankrupt morality of altruism-collectivism. That means anyone who advocates for redistribution of wealth.

Poor people are poor by choice MOST of the time. Nobody has to be poor, they choose to be poor by NOT BEING RATIONAL. And when they choose to be poor, I am not in favor of LEFT wing solutions that involve stealing money from good people for the unearned and undeserved benefit of people who have made their own bed but want other people to pay for them avoiding having to sleep in it.

So Pocahantas, who is a phony lying thug, and has a bankrupt hating philosophy, is going to pull the Democrat party to the Left, and that is going to cause them to lose, lose, lose. At least I hope so.

Left = Hate
Every post of yours glaringly describes how banks got public money in 2008.
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Old 02-27-2019, 05:13 PM
 
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Re: Poor people are poor by choice MOST of the time.



How do you define "by choice"?


If you held out your hand and offered someone a red pill to be poor or a blue pill to be rich, they will take the blue pill. No one would choose to be poor at any given moment.


But they are poor "by their choices" to not put in the work to get the reward, to spend their evening watching TV shows rather than attending a night class or even studying on their own. Higher paying jobs ARE available but not to the skill level of those working in the Walmarts or McD's.
There are many, many people who have degrees, skills, etc, working these low wage jobs because fact is there is a limited number of entry level positions available. You may graduate with a degree in business lets say, but so did many other people, and not everyone will be getting the limited number of openings in a career field. I have known engineers who worked at retail for quite a while looking for work, each job they are competing with 100 other applicants as well.

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And somebody who works at Walmart is not poor. You can make $30,000/yr at minimum wage if you get some overtime. Or more if you work 2 crap-class Walmart jobs. And as long as you haven’t made babies and become a drunk, you’re golden. In fact, the prototypical slob working 60 hours at Walmart class jobs lives better than 90% of the people on Earth.
Lol, can tell you have been out of the picture for a while. There is no overtime at these places, and they have converted numerous positions to part-time only, not to exceed a certain number of hours per week. The whacky scheduling makes it near impossible to work two jobs.
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Old 02-27-2019, 05:25 PM
 
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There are many, many people who have degrees, skills, etc, working these low wage jobs because fact is there is a limited number of entry level positions available. You may graduate with a degree in business lets say, but so did many other people, and not everyone will be getting the limited number of openings in a career field. I have known engineers who worked at retail for quite a while looking for work, each job they are competing with 100 other applicants as well.

Then get another skill. Or move to another area. My point is you have no grounds to be whining about your position in life if you are spending your evenings watching America's Got Talent or reruns of Big Bang instead of doing things that can improve your opportunities.
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