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View Poll Results: Who Did Worse In The Eyes of The Court of Public Opinion
Roseanne Joke? 11 7.53%
Or Jussie Smollet Hoax? 135 92.47%
Voters: 146. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-20-2019, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Bronx
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Um, I am part of the left. Im fine with him being prosecuted for this if it turns out to be a hoax.
I am too. But many on the left don't feel that he should be persecuted. Look at. Ava duverny for an example.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...203832910.html

 
Old 02-20-2019, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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While both ruined their careers, Roseanne had a lot more to lose ruining hers.

And Roseann was a repeat offender, so her chances of redemption over time are much less. Roseanne is older now, and she doesn't have the luxury of passing time on her side. This was Jussie's first big career mistake.

But Jussie's offense was the greater, as he included others who were innocent in it.
He does have the advantage of youth, though, and failed hoaxes tend to be forgiven over time more often than deeply offensive insults.

We all remember some severe insult that we got in childhood, but we seldom remember an attempt to con us that failed, especially when the attempt blew up in the con artist's face and didn't damage us.

To me, the question is who stands the best chance of getting their last last shot at redemption? Roseanne already burned through all of her last shots, but Jussie may have a few more left because he's a lot younger.
 
Old 02-20-2019, 12:04 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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As a liberal of course it would still be Jussie. It's never ok to fake your own attack. I had no opinion on his "attack" from the start, but to fake it is outrageous. He sounded like a right winger though. His reasoning was media didn't give him enough attention when he got hateful letters sounds like a conservative to me.
 
Old 02-20-2019, 12:11 PM
 
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I would say Jussie because Roseanne has a history of controversial statements and because liberals often side with the non-White and non-straight crowds.
 
Old 02-20-2019, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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Who is Jussie Smolett?


Given that, Roseanne gets a pass from me (believe it or not) and is declared "fair" by default.
 
Old 02-20-2019, 12:31 PM
 
Location: NJ
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poor choice of words by a comedienne turned into faux insult. Others can insult the president with a beheading and it be called freedom of speech. That demonstrated inequity makes the poor word choice not worthy of the consequences it resulted in.


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A felony and attempting to create a false report to publicly damage the reputation of political opponents to feed into and gin up a false narrative of hate and fear. Additionally it was a selfish act that tarnishes the veracity of future victims of hate.


Jail time in order.
 
Old 02-20-2019, 01:01 PM
 
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We all remember some severe insult that we got in childhood, but we seldom remember an attempt to con us that failed, especially when the attempt blew up in the con artist's face and didn't damage us.
That's a pretty horrible mis-characterization of the severity of bringing false hate crime charges.

Do you even know WHY they differentiate a hate crime from just a regular murder or assault etc?

Well, it's the same damage to society caused by the false charge.

I'm betting that if police showed up at your highschool and started questioning people, taking evidence etc. because a girl from a rival school said your basketball team tried to murder her but got caught lying about it because she didn't like your school....you'd remember.

All you're doing here is trying to minimize the severity of what he did because of your political stance and it's ugly to watch.
 
Old 02-20-2019, 01:43 PM
 
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Rose told the truth.........the gay guy lied
 
Old 02-20-2019, 01:59 PM
 
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Roseanne made a comment in poor taste. I don't believe she intended to be racist in the tweet even thought it comes off that way. She apologized and seem sincerely sorry for her mistake, but the PC left has no forgiveness. The only recovery is hoping the public will eventually forget about it and move on.

Jussie Smollet intended to cause harm.
 
Old 02-20-2019, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Bronx
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Roseanne made a comment in poor taste. I don't believe she intended to be racist in the tweet even thought it comes off that way. She apologized and seem sincerely sorry for her mistake, but the PC left has no forgiveness. The only recovery is hoping the public will eventually forget about it and move on.

Jussie Smollet intended to cause harm.
She apologized. But the intersectional left did not forgive her. I wonder if the left will forgive jussie smollet?
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