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View Poll Results: Will the Michael Cohen testimony bring enough dirt on Trump to impeach?
Yes, i believe it will 44 14.15%
It will definitely hurt Trump but not enough to impeach 104 33.44%
No, basically it will be a nothingburger 163 52.41%
Voters: 311. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-27-2019, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Denver 'burbs
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Trump did not expect to win, and had no real desire to become president

Ba ha ha, that's Cohen lie #1. Anyone who knows anything about Trump knows Trump doesn't play to lose.
Except to him, since the game was about self-promotion not service, losing the election still would have been winning. In Trump-world, anything he does is "winning!". Even when it's not.

 
Old 02-27-2019, 07:50 AM
 
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Well why would he think he was going to win when everyone was telling him he was going to lose? Poll after poll, the talk shows, social media, CNN and the like, the DNC, the Dems at large.
yep, the media was coronating Hillary. hmm, I wonder why they were so sure she would win? When it didn't happen it was a blow to the media personalities who thought they dictated the presidency.
 
Old 02-27-2019, 07:51 AM
 
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This is precisely what Michael Moore, Howard Stern and many others were saying before and after the election. Trump had no real desire to be president, and mostly just ran to aggrandize his own business. Now we have His own lawyer of 10+ years telling us the same thing:

Michael Cohen's opening statement to Congress

"Donald Trump is a man who ran for office to make his brand great, not to make our country great. He had no desire or intention to lead this nation -- only to market himself and to build his wealth and power. Mr. Trump would often say, this campaign was going to be the "greatest infomercial in political history."

He never expected to win the primary. He never expected to win the general election. The campaign -- for him -- was always a marketing opportunity."
That's exactly why 90% of people run for office (in the primaries).
Only 10% of candidates think they are going to win.
But once Trump got close to winning, he liked the idea of being President, that is for certain.
And actually if you listen to Trump's interviews in the 1980s and 1990s, he has always been extremely passionate about saving America, and he continuously pointed out the errors of Bush and Clinton.
In the late 90s he criticized Bill Clinton regularly, and he predicted North Korea would become a nuclear power because of Bill Clinton's mistakes.
So he clearly always cared about making America great again.
Look at how passionate Trump was in his interviews throughout the last few decades, more passionate than any of those running for President....
 
Old 02-27-2019, 07:51 AM
 
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Except to him, since the game was about self-promotion not service, losing the election still would have been winning. In Trump-world, anything he does is "winning!". Even when it's not.
It's so funny that it chaps your ass that Trump won and Hillary lost.

Did Hillary get a participation trophy? She should have because this teaches how to lose with class and dignity.
 
Old 02-27-2019, 07:53 AM
 
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And face it—
If Cohen says that Trump is the one who told him to lie to Congress—
Then there was conspiracy to obstruct justice—
Don’t need the Russian angle to get there

And the fact that the GOP has been trying since this man became president (and before) to minimize his criminal past and present and future proved the GOP is about as criminal...

Trump suborned perjury—that means he told Cohen to lie to Congress (and likely anyone else that threatened Trump like Mueller’s investigation)
That is a felony
There is no way you get tutored by someone like Roy Cohn and NOT KNOW that lying under oath is illegal...
 
Old 02-27-2019, 07:53 AM
 
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I don't think even Trump knew there were this many stupid people in this country.
This could be the post of the day.
 
Old 02-27-2019, 07:55 AM
 
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REMEMBER FOLKS: Michael Cohen has spent over 70 hours in classified interrogations with Special Counsel Bob Mueller. So much of what we're hearing for the first time today, Mueller might have known for months.

And that does not include what SDNY knows of what Cohen said about Trump.

Michael Cohen had over 100 tapes (recordings) when the FBI raided his house, and SDNY is in possession of all those tapes.
 
Old 02-27-2019, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Originally Posted by petch751 View Post
Trump did not expect to win, and had no real desire to become president

Ba ha ha, that's Cohen lie #1. Anyone who knows anything about Trump knows Trump doesn't play to lose.
right, for someone who had no real "desire", He sure ran himself ragged, attending 3-4 rallies a day, 5 days a week, for months..meanwhile Hilly, was lucky to make 2 appearances a week..
 
Old 02-27-2019, 07:56 AM
 
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I don't think even Trump knew there were this many stupid people in this country.
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This could be the post of the day.
Wow, how grown up and original. You didn't get your way so you call people names.
 
Old 02-27-2019, 07:56 AM
 
Location: Denver 'burbs
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It's so funny that it chaps your ass that Trump won and Hillary lost.
Interesting that it's not me but YOU who brought up Hillary.

My concern is not that Hillary (or anyone) lost, but that a person who uses the Presidency of the USA as a cheap reality TV show for nothing more than personal gain and self aggrandizement is representing country I care deeply about.
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