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Old 02-24-2019, 04:29 PM
 
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Depends which ones you're talking about. Public grade-school teachers? University professors? Trade-school teachers?
And which ones of those do you think are losers?

 
Old 02-24-2019, 04:29 PM
 
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Don jr thinks teachers are losers because they spend their lives dedicated to something greater than themselves; helping children. That’s a completely foreign idea to a narcissistic sociopath.
 
Old 02-24-2019, 04:30 PM
 
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I don't agree with him but I think spending things on intangible education system with poor results would be better spent on tax cuts, infrastructure.

I think the education system have become a liberal indoctrination institutions. I don't think that it is a useful allocation of taxpayer resources.

I do believe in Social Security, Medicare and a per-capita block grant Medicaid system but I don't really believe taxpayer resources should be allocated towards buildings of people listening to mainly outdated lectures 185 days a year for about 6 hours a day.

They will continue to spend more and more on an outdated educated system that is one of worst of the developed world but it just seems like something that should be a parental responsibility like daycare should be.
Liberal indoctrination?

Where do you get such utter nonsense?
 
Old 02-24-2019, 04:30 PM
 
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And which ones of those do you think are losers?
I would imagine that there are losers in each of those professions. just like any other profession, there are losers.
 
Old 02-24-2019, 04:31 PM
 
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Teachers don't teach much anymore. They indoctrinate and brainwash kids, at least those in the public schools do. I have a lot more respect for private school teachers - they make less money but somehow never seem to whine about what they get paid. As for the union public school teachers, they are constantly caterwauling about he pay they make despite the fact that they chose their profession AND they get summers off. Quit crying already - do your job well and stop failing to educate our kids.

IMO you are mistaken about the teachers you denigrate.


That aside, surely you are not promoting the terrible rhetoric of Don the son?


In a stadium filled with people chanting “USA, USA,” the son of the president of the United States called for hostility toward teachers because of their so-called political leanings.


This is a message you would expect in an authoritarian regime, not at a rally for the U.S. president.
 
Old 02-24-2019, 04:33 PM
 
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He did not call all teachers losers... just the ones promoting socialism.

Thread title fail...
In my ~25 years of education, from preschool to graduate programs, I never saw socialism promoted.

What in the hell are you people talking about?
 
Old 02-24-2019, 04:43 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Teachers don't teach much anymore. They indoctrinate and brainwash kids, at least those in the public schools do. I have a lot more respect for private school teachers - they make less money but somehow never seem to whine about what they get paid. As for the union public school teachers, they are constantly caterwauling about he pay they make despite the fact that they chose their profession AND they get summers off. Quit crying already - do your job well and stop failing to educate our kids.
Yeah, I hear you. My wife was a retired high school teach and not a day went by that she didn't come home and say "I indoctrinated and brainwashed a whole bunch of kids today". I often wondered how she did it because she taught math. Go figure.
 
Old 02-24-2019, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Spring Hope, NC
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I can sympathize with the teachers; they want to get as much salary as possible out of the system, the sad part for them is that the system has run it’s course, broken buildings, limited supplies, sub standard pay, and being overly protected by their representatives.
I predict big changes are in store for public education down the road, may be less expensive and more efficient if privately managed.
 
Old 02-24-2019, 04:55 PM
 
Location: In the reddest part of the bluest state
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I can sympathize with the teachers; they want to get as much salary as possible out of the system, the sad part for them is that the system has run it’s course, broken buildings, limited supplies, sub standard pay, and being overly protected by their representatives.
I predict big changes are in store for public education down the road, may be less expensive and more efficient if privately managed.
Great idea, let’s take a system that you already think costs too much and add a profit motive to the bottom line.
That makes sense.
 
Old 02-24-2019, 04:55 PM
 
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Many of them are. Need to do away with tenure. Many school administrative personnel are liberal losers as well.
Then there are some teachers that fo a great job, but get no support from liberal school principals or administration or parents.
What nana said.

If you are in El Paso then you must know everything taught in El Paso schools originates in Austin.

IIRC, Texas doesn't do tenure. A principal can fire a teacher anytime they wish. They just have to build their case. The ones I know are too lazy to do the work so they just move the bad ones from one school to another.

Who runs Texas? How long have they been in control of every board, commission and state association in the state. IIRC, it happened the day GWB won the governors race. Surely you do not think Karl Rove and Rick Perry would put liberals in charge of the TEA.

About 1/3 of the teachers in my part of Texas even belong to the teacher organizations. They do for the legal protection provided. If a teacher gets sued by a parent, the districts will not defend them but the teacher organization will.

You are free to run for school board. Then you get to decided how subjects are taught in your district. But you will have the use the textbooks picked out by the TEA.
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