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Old 03-12-2019, 01:09 PM
 
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They tried this in Florida where the contract for lab work was awarded to a company owned by a relative of then-governor Rick Scott. They spent more in lab costs than they did "saving" money by denying benefits.

The fiscal argument is a failure.

Still, if it's a moral argument then anyone receiving government funds must be tested, not just the poor. That includes judges, law enforcement, elected officials and entities receiving corporate welfare (looking at you, auto/bank bailouts).

This proposal is just another way to demonize and criminalize poverty and line the pockets of wealthy politicians.



Alabama legislators propose drug testing for food stamp recipients
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Old 03-12-2019, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Since I pay into the system, if I fail I shouldn't have to pay in.
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Old 03-12-2019, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Good. After other states implemented this, the number of people collecting food stamps dropped precipitously. Seems like they wouldn't give up their drugs long enough to clean up and pass a pee test. In other words they liked their drugs more than their handouts. Win-win.
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Old 03-12-2019, 01:32 PM
 
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Since I pay into the system, if I fail I shouldn't have to pay in.
Yes, that sounds most appropriate.
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Old 03-12-2019, 01:40 PM
 
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I guess the appropriate question is - which AL legislator is going to get rich selling drug testing services to the state? You know there is at least one.
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Old 03-12-2019, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Eureka CA
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Despicable.
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Old 03-12-2019, 01:44 PM
 
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I guess the appropriate question is - which AL legislator is going to get rich selling drug testing services to the state? You know there is at least one.
Amen to this. As usual, follow the money.

This has proven to be a waste of time and money in other states except for the companies (and owners) that raked in big bucks.
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Old 03-12-2019, 01:44 PM
 
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Good. After other states implemented this, the number of people collecting food stamps dropped precipitously. Seems like they wouldn't give up their drugs long enough to clean up and pass a pee test. In other words they liked their drugs more than their handouts. Win-win.
How is it good, when its costing more than what they would save, to do all the testing?


I think ultimately this will just create a bunch of new drug dealers...if they get their income cut off suddenly they are going to do the next easiest thing to continue bringing money in, since they are already using drugs, its not difficult to make the jump to selling, in fact thats how many low level addicts support their own habits, they are just addicts themselves.
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Old 03-12-2019, 01:45 PM
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Well they are on the right track. Illegal drug users shouldn't be getting food stamps or any other handouts like welfare and Section 8 vouchers.
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Old 03-12-2019, 01:46 PM
 
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They tried this in Florida where the contract for lab work was awarded to a company owned by a relative of then-governor Rick Scott. They spent more in lab costs than they did "saving" money by denying benefits.

The fiscal argument is a failure.

Still, if it's a moral argument then anyone receiving government funds must be tested, not just the poor. That includes judges, law enforcement, elected officials and entities receiving corporate welfare (looking at you, auto/bank bailouts).

This proposal is just another way to demonize and criminalize poverty and line the pockets of wealthy politicians.



Alabama legislators propose drug testing for food stamp recipients
Number of states have tried this and found it to not be worth the money and effort. It makes people who are misinformed happy because they think if you are on food stamps it is because you are some illegal drug taking imbecile.
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