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Old 03-13-2019, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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People forget that North Korea is a Republic. It says it right in the name, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, and we have double-talking rightists still trying to deny this.
Do you honestly think that through all the famines and starvation and death, that the Kim family never lost an election? Not ever? We all know how it works under Marxist regimes: You can either vote for person currently in charge or you can not vote at all. Speaking ill of the "Great Leader" means a one-way ticket to a slave labor camp where you will be mercilessly worked to death. It is unbelievably naive to refer to North Korea as an actual Republic.
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Old 03-13-2019, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Default Republican form

A Republic is NOT the same as a republican form as promised to the American people in Art. 4, Sec. 4, USCON.
...
REPUBLIC - A commonwealth; That form of government in which the administration of affairs is open to all the citizens. In another sense, it signifies the state, independent of its form of government.
Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition, P. 1302
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If the administration is open to all citizens, it is a republic. Even if that's not true, a state can call itself a republic.

Remember, citizens are subjects, by definition, because they have mandatory civic duties.

Let us now examine the republican form of government.
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GOVERNMENT (Republican Form of Government)- One in which the powers of sovereignty are vested in the people and are exercised by the people,... directly...
- - - Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition, P. 695

". . . at the Revolution, the sovereignty devolved on the [American] people, and they are truly the sovereigns of the country, but they are sovereigns without subjects, and have none to govern but themselves. . ."
- - - Justice John Jay, Chisholm v. Georgia, 2 U.S. 2 Dall. 419 419 (1793)
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremec...CR_0002_0419_Z
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Sovereign Americans (the people) are SERVED by government. Government is not their master, nor their ruler... unless they consent otherwise.

*****************
"What I do say is that no man is good enough to govern another man without that other's consent. I say this is the leading principle, the sheet-anchor of American republicanism. Our Declaration of Independence says: "We hold these truths to be self-evident: That all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed."
- - - Abraham Lincoln, Speech at Peoria, Illinois (1854)
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Abraham_lincoln

As Lincoln reminds us, CONSENT is the crucial point.
Few Americans are aware of how and when they consented to be governed, and thus surrender their endowed rights under the republican form.

If fraud was used to get your consent, you have the right to denounce the fraud and withdraw consent. Imagine if 97% of Americans withdrew consent. Wouldn't that be FUN!
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Old 03-13-2019, 11:03 PM
 
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I see what you did there, OP...
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Old 03-14-2019, 12:03 AM
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I see what you did there, OP...
Too bad others don't!
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Old 03-14-2019, 12:12 AM
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I think it had something to do with this thread.

Should the Holocaust be remembered as an example of the dangers of socialism?
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Old 03-14-2019, 12:14 AM
 
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apples are an example of why you should never eat the seeds of a plant.

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The bottom line is that apple seeds are definitely poisonous but only if you chew them thoroughly and in large numbers. To be on the safe side, discard the seeds, especially when juicing apples for children. And by all means, avoid chewing on apricot, greengage, and cherry pits. These have a higher amygdalin content than apple seeds.
https://www.curejoy.com/content/are-...eds-poisonous/

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It says it right in the name, the Democratic People's Republic
so, it should also be remembered as a reason to never vote for the democratic party.
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Old 03-14-2019, 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by jetgraphics View Post
A Republic is NOT the same as a republican form as promised to the American people in Art. 4, Sec. 4, USCON.
...
REPUBLIC - A commonwealth; That form of government in which the administration of affairs is open to all the citizens. In another sense, it signifies the state, independent of its form of government.
Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition, P. 1302
...
If the administration is open to all citizens, it is a republic. Even if that's not true, a state can call itself a republic.

Remember, citizens are subjects, by definition, because they have mandatory civic duties.

Let us now examine the republican form of government.
...
GOVERNMENT (Republican Form of Government)- One in which the powers of sovereignty are vested in the people and are exercised by the people,... directly...
- - - Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition, P. 695

". . . at the Revolution, the sovereignty devolved on the [American] people, and they are truly the sovereigns of the country, but they are sovereigns without subjects, and have none to govern but themselves. . ."
- - - Justice John Jay, Chisholm v. Georgia, 2 U.S. 2 Dall. 419 419 (1793)
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremec...CR_0002_0419_Z
...
Sovereign Americans (the people) are SERVED by government. Government is not their master, nor their ruler... unless they consent otherwise.

*****************
"What I do say is that no man is good enough to govern another man without that other's consent. I say this is the leading principle, the sheet-anchor of American republicanism. Our Declaration of Independence says: "We hold these truths to be self-evident: That all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed."
- - - Abraham Lincoln, Speech at Peoria, Illinois (1854)
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Abraham_lincoln

As Lincoln reminds us, CONSENT is the crucial point.
Few Americans are aware of how and when they consented to be governed, and thus surrender their endowed rights under the republican form.

If fraud was used to get your consent, you have the right to denounce the fraud and withdraw consent. Imagine if 97% of Americans withdrew consent. Wouldn't that be FUN!
According to the info in your own post you cannot surrender your rights by consent to be governed.

Your endowed rights are not surrendered as such they are secured by the governing body. They are inalienable. The consent is so that the governing body protects those rights. You can't sign them away anymore than you can declare you are not human.
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Old 03-14-2019, 05:30 AM
 
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Should North Korea be remembered as an example of the dangers of Democrats?

It says it right in the name, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, and we have double-talking leftists still trying to deny this.
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Old 03-14-2019, 05:38 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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People forget that North Korea is a Republic. It says it right in the name, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, and we have double-talking rightists still trying to deny this.
Oh FFS.
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Old 03-14-2019, 06:03 AM
 
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Some
people actually believe N Korea is no longer a nuclear threat.
And those people are smart enough to read between the lines and not take that statement at face value.

North Korea is no longer a nuclear threat = We're moving in the right direction. We'll get it fixed
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