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Old 03-19-2019, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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The Medicare For All thread was closed by the moderator in the Medicare forum for being too political (and before I posted to it) so I would like to open this particular issue with Medicare for All in the Politics and Other Controversies forum.

Most of the discussion on Medicare For All is around how it will be paid for but I have a different question.

Are there enough doctors to go around for Medicare for All? Think about it: medicaid people, millions of illegals in the US, people here legally on visas, and everyone currently on Obamacare and employer insurance plus the elderly already on Medicare. And if you think there won't be enough doctors (I don't), who do you think would be shuffled off to Nurse Practitioners? I think it will be the elderly, the group that gets Medicare, now.

The next time you go to your doctor, ask them if they think there are enough doctors to go around for Medicare For All and let us know what they say.
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Old 03-19-2019, 11:13 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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We should be training more Nurse practitioners and Physician assistants.

It does not take a PHD to do an ear infection.
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Old 03-19-2019, 11:14 AM
 
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No. In typical and irrational fashion, govt limits the supply of doctors while increasing the demand for them.

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Old 03-19-2019, 11:32 AM
 
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Medicare For All - Are There Enough Doctors?


Yes. This is the least of our concerns. Every generation we have a new crop of MDs and schools can be expanded.

As mentioned above there are also programs for training Nurse Practitioners and Physician's Assistants. The prospect is bright, as long as we don't let the AMA choke off the supply.
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Old 03-19-2019, 11:39 AM
 
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We already are sent to NPs. Even with a serious medical issue, and good private insurance, they try to push us to NPs.
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Old 03-19-2019, 11:52 AM
 
Location: DFW
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How about Medicare for All Illegals that can cross our borders.

How do we pay the Medical for every 3rd world person who wants to come claim asylum and get free treatment for their disease?

Let's see... 80,000 a month. 1 Million a year. We can't build enough hospitals or create enough doctors to take care of all the babies they drop.
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Old 03-19-2019, 11:54 AM
 
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The question should be, will people want to become doctors and get paid pennies on the dollar.
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Old 03-19-2019, 11:58 AM
 
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You'd get a PA if you were lucky. And the best doctors .... those are reserved for the "important" people. Some will be lucky. Some would be bumped to the back of the line over and over with no recourse.

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Old 03-19-2019, 12:25 PM
 
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The Medicare For All thread was closed by the moderator in the Medicare forum for being too political (and before I posted to it) so I would like to open this particular issue with Medicare for All in the Politics and Other Controversies forum.

Most of the discussion on Medicare For All is around how it will be paid for but I have a different question.

Are there enough doctors to go around for Medicare for All? Think about it: medicaid people, millions of illegals in the US, people here legally on visas, and everyone currently on Obamacare and employer insurance plus the elderly already on Medicare. And if you think there won't be enough doctors (I don't), who do you think would be shuffled off to Nurse Practitioners? I think it will be the elderly, the group that gets Medicare, now.

The next time you go to your doctor, ask them if they think there are enough doctors to go around for Medicare For All and let us know what they say.
This idea might sound good but what would your expectations be for Doctors to answer you truthfully if they are the ones that would then be susceptible to a more rigid fee schedule.

It would probably be in Doctor's best interests to keep you fearful of such an idea, would it not?
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Old 03-19-2019, 12:43 PM
 
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we see too many Doctors too often. I have a number of chronic conditions such that i have 4 Doctors who wish to see me every 3 months, including Blood Work. All they do is look at my blood work, see that everything is at a maintenance level and send me home. There is no reason why if my numbers are good i should have to show up. Doctors could look at labs see nothing changed and not call you in unless you have a NEW ISSUE to discuss. Heck there is no reason a computer program could not be programed for personalized criteria set by my Doctors and checked automatically if my labs come back in range. From talking to many others this type of do nothing visit is pretty common if you suffer from chronic conditions. Of course this could effect what could be Billed, hmm wonder if this has anything to do with it?
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