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Old 03-23-2019, 08:38 AM
 
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I saw Paul the other day calling out Trump on not being for peace or non intervention and he pointed out how Trump has surrounded himself with war monger neo cons like Bolton,Abrams,Haley, and Pompeo. If Paul was POTUS not one of those people would work for him.

Is Trump for sound money? no. At first he was for raising the interest rate but now in office he is against raising it and want to continue the rate being low or lower.

Paul did not bring us Trump the OP is the worst Paul supporter I have ever witnessed.


All the main concerns that Paul has consistently warned people about (and for decades) ,wars,spending,spying, taxes, debt, fed reserve, etc. have all continued under Trump and then some.
Time for BB to walk back his thread.
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Old 03-23-2019, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Jefferson, Paul, and Trump are/were statists.

If you embrace freedom you wouldn't touch any one of them with a 10-ft pole.
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Old 03-23-2019, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Trump is a product of the Ron Paul Revolution.
Without shedding blood, a Political Revolution is the only other way to bring about Freedom & Liberty.
2006 a bunch of Free Thinking people gathered to hear a special man speak. His words were not the normal feel good, we got you covered stuff, from other politicians. He told a bleak future for freedom & liberty if we didn't wake up.


From what we know now happening behind the scenes, Ron Paul had more support than even Donald Trump. We all know it. Look what they the puppetmasters did to keep Ron Paul from getting close to the office.


In comes Donald J. Trump. A man with YUGE balls of Brass. Bold enough to speak up and pull no punches or gives no quarter, when he sees things not right.
Ron Paul, like Thomas Jefferson brought in George Washington, brought forward a PATRIOT like Trump to battle the tyrants.


The call to arms, was at the ballot box and no, Hillary didn't lose because of Russians.
What a insult to Ron Paul. Shame on you.
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Old 03-23-2019, 10:09 AM
 
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Your version of the State kills innocents too.

Reconcile that.
Let me add - a meth-addled Russia Fiction Writer.

Libertarians have no "version" of a state or government. They are like anyone else with simplistic thinking...they are against most everything without providing a sane, reasonable and workable solutions.

What else is new? People have been giving easy solutions to complex problems for thousands of years...to those looking for such.
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Old 03-23-2019, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Let me add - a meth-addled Russia Fiction Writer.

Libertarians have no "version" of a state or government. They are like anyone else with simplistic thinking...they are against most everything without providing a sane, reasonable and workable solutions.

What else is new? People have been giving easy solutions to complex problems for thousands of years...to those looking for such.
Rand was a statist and a harsh opponent of anarchy.

She's on your team. Enjoy.
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Old 03-23-2019, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Rand was a statist and a harsh opponent of anarchy.

She's on your team. Enjoy.
Ron Paul is a libertarian and a supporter of freedom for all and laws to be decided at the local and state level with no federal government or FED. I think statist is very extreme even to call Trump that.
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Old 03-23-2019, 10:20 AM
 
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Ron Paul is a libertarian and a supporter of freedom for all and laws to be decided at the local and state level with no federal government or FED. I think statist is very extreme even to call Trump that.
Interesting since many of his writing and supporters seem to think black folks are lesser human beings.

"Paul made nearly one million dollars in just one year from publishing the (racist) newsletters."

More recently I had a friend that attended a couple Tea Party rallies...which were also pushing Ron Paul. He honestly thought that perhaps the "movement" was about what the talking points mentioned.

When he started talking to the others at the rally, he found out different. He said he had never heard so many racist tirades in his entire life...and this was in New England!

If I spout all kinds of warmed over ideals (nothing new in Paul stuff!) which are 75% true, 10% 1/2 true and 15% total BS, will I be a hero also?

It's interesting that so-called libertarians still need authority figures....
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Old 03-23-2019, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Ron Paul is a libertarian and a supporter of freedom for all and laws to be decided at the local and state level with no federal government or FED. I think statist is very extreme even to call Trump that.
You can't be a little bit pregnant. That's my knock on Paul.

He told Tom Woods in 2013 that he wasn't an anarchist. Well, by default that makes you a statist.
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Old 03-23-2019, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Planet Telex
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Trump and Paul have almost nothing in common and its a disservice to freedom, liberty and Ron Paul to conflate the two men.
Exactly. I don't think Trump was ever a fan of Ron Paul or libertarianism in general. He was asked about it back in 2016 and it was quite clear to everyone that Trump knew next to nothing about libertarianism.

Also, Ron Paul has principles and class. Trump has neither of these things.
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Old 03-23-2019, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Interesting since many of his writing and supporters seem to think black folks are lesser human beings.

"Paul made nearly one million dollars in just one year from publishing the (racist) newsletters."

More recently I had a friend that attended a couple Tea Party rallies...which were also pushing Ron Paul. He honestly thought that perhaps the "movement" was about what the talking points mentioned.

When he started talking to the others at the rally, he found out different. He said he had never heard so many racist tirades in his entire life...and this was in New England!

If I spout all kinds of warmed over ideals (nothing new in Paul stuff!) which are 75% true, 10% 1/2 true and 15% total BS, will I be a hero also?

It's interesting that so-called libertarians still need authority figures....
Ron Paul is FAR from being a racist. FACT.
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