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Old 05-05-2019, 11:45 PM
 
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MK Ultra was another 'conspiracy theory' that turned out to be real!


Govt lied for years about this project but finally some surviving documents were uncovered that proved it happened, unfortunately most of the projects documents were destroyed on purpose in a fire. We do know it had over 70 sub-projects, some very bizarre, most illegal as well.
I'm not talking about things that hardly anybody cares about.

It is practically impossible to keep genuinely important things that affect lots of people secret for too long. It will get found out.
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Old 05-06-2019, 12:44 AM
 
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War as a source of entertainment. Now, this is quite ridiculous, but is it possible that besides wars being fought over religion, resources and political affluence, long term entertainment value plays a role?

Its interesting that the most successful movies often revolve around war. Its clear that throughout human history war has been glorified, going back to the Greeks and other ancient civilizations.

Without the Vietnam War, where would Creedence get the inspiration to write a hit like Fortunate Son, how would Kubrick come up with Full Metal Jacket...

Without the Cold War, what would have happened to Tom Clancy's career?

There are plenty of other examples

As I mentioned above, this is quite asinine, but the one thing that's clear is that conflict has been glamorized over the years and has been used in pop culture/media as a means of capitalizing on profit.
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Old 05-06-2019, 07:07 AM
 
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If Obama acquired his SS# in 1977 that would imply his paperwork was filed with an address in Maine since that state uses zip codes that start with 042, ....

if obama had used a zip code from maine his SS# prefix would be 004, 005, 006 or 007.


https://www.ssofficelocation.com/soc...-number-prefix
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Old 05-06-2019, 08:12 AM
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Location: Dallas, TX
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War as a source of entertainment. Now, this is quite ridiculous, but is it possible that besides wars being fought over religion, resources and political affluence, long term entertainment value plays a role?

Its interesting that the most successful movies often revolve around war. Its clear that throughout human history war has been glorified, going back to the Greeks and other ancient civilizations.

Without the Vietnam War, where would Creedence get the inspiration to write a hit like Fortunate Son, how would Kubrick come up with Full Metal Jacket...

Without the Cold War, what would have happened to Tom Clancy's career?

There are plenty of other examples

As I mentioned above, this is quite asinine, but the one thing that's clear is that conflict has been glamorized over the years and has been used in pop culture/media as a means of capitalizing on profit.
Independence Day: Resurgence is an example of the tie-in between certainly Hollywood studios and the US Army in particular (and I'm sure the military in general).

But on to the deeper issue. War as entertainment. Hero / bad-ass wins. Love to hear a good story in which the bad guy gets his just deserts. No doubt that contributes to the idea that physical forcefulness is the main yardstick for measuring a person's worth, especially a male's but increasingly a female's worth too. Perhaps if people didn't dehumanize the weak, helpless, and disspirited so much they we'd have a more peaceful world or human species in general. Seriously, how do even the strong profit in the long run when their society's ethos of 'win at all costs', 'contempt for the helpless' diverts attention into turf wars, social politics, and such - as opposed to actual productive tasks that widens the gap between our present state and our demise?
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Old 05-06-2019, 09:08 AM
 
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if obama had used a zip code from maine his SS# prefix would be 004, 005, 006 or 007.


https://www.ssofficelocation.com/soc...-number-prefix
Under the old "pre 1973" system, yes, that would have been correct. In 1977 when Obama allegedly acquired his, it would not.
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Old 05-06-2019, 09:22 AM
 
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you're now conflating SS# prefixes with zip codes. nowhere in the scenario i described would the zip code ( correctly or mistakenly ) contain 042.
It says right here on this web page:

A spokesperson from the Selective Service System confirmed for TruthorFiction.com that the Social Security number and the draft registration number on the document did indeed belong to Barack Obama and they have no other Social Security numbers associated with his name.

https://www.truthorfiction.com/obama-ssn/

Look at the number listed on the Selective Service registration and I will state in again clearly: the first 3 digits 042 of his SS# are nowhere close to 068 in your "oops they made a typo" theory. So how are you accounting for this?

I will make it a little easier for everybody. Somebody smart did come up with a very plausible and likely explanation for why he does have use a CT SS#, if anybody cares to read it.

https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...ty_number.html

In the first link above it also says something about his grandmother working the probate office in Honolulu who could have helped facilitate the stealing of an unused but previously valid number, so that is very interesting if even half true. The theory is that he couldn't just get a SS# the right way because he lacked the proper credentials, ie; the birth certificate. (Not that hard to believe IMO)

Look I have nothing against Obama and in fact voted for him twice before I knew any better, but this one stinks just like a lot of other things do. Sorry.
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Old 05-06-2019, 09:28 AM
 
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This one is interesting!

Everything about NASA stinks bad. But once you realize they staged the Apollo Moon landings, none of the other cons they pull off tend to surprise you that much. So of course the Challenger explosion was not what we were told it was.
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Old 05-06-2019, 10:19 AM
 
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Everything about NASA stinks bad. But once you realize they staged the Apollo Moon landings, none of the other cons they pull off tend to surprise you that much. So of course the Challenger explosion was not what we were told it was.

there is only one question..can humans survive the radiation of the van Allen belt? or cant they?
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Old 05-06-2019, 10:24 AM
 
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Everything about NASA stinks bad. But once you realize they staged the Apollo Moon landings, none of the other cons they pull off tend to surprise you that much. So of course the Challenger explosion was not what we were told it was.
This is tongue in cheek, right? No one actually believes this.
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Old 05-06-2019, 11:10 AM
 
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Under the old "pre 1973" system, yes, that would have been correct. In 1977 when Obama allegedly acquired his, it would not.

"Since 1973, social security numbers have been issued by our central office. The first three (3) digits of a person's social security number are determined by the ZIP Code of the mailing address shown on the application for a social security number."

if obama's mailing address zip code were mistakenly entered as 06814 ( danbury CT ) instead of 96814 ( honolulu HI ), a difference of one digit, obama would have received a social security number with a prefix of 402 ( which we both admit he has ).


are we in agreement on this point?
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