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People cheering on this behavior by the Democrats need to step back and actually think what's taking place.
Legislators in Congress are seizing bank records... NOT because a crime was committed... but to search for a crime with which to attempt to impeach Trump.
If they do it to him, they will do it to anyone.
I have no problem people who oppose Trump politically or personally or whatever, but this goes over the line.
Trump was subjected to a two year investigation and was cleared. Even Mueller didn't go this far.
If you are OK with this behavior... it will come back to bite you. Bank on it.
A key congressional committee has already gained access to President Donald Trump’s dealings with two major financial institutions, two sources familiar with the House probe tell NBC News, as a court ruling Wednesday promised to open the door for even more records to be handed over.
Wells Fargo and TD Bank are the two of nine institutions that have so far complied with subpoenas issued by the House Financial Services Committee demanding information about their dealings with the Trump Organization, according to the sources. The disclosures by these two banks haven’t been previously reported. Both TD Bank and Wells Fargo declined to comment for this story.
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The subpoenas, details of which have not been released to the public, are predicated on the notion that Congress has access to the information under the Bank Secrecy Act, which allows Congress access to financial information to search for money laundering, according to a person who has seen them.
Has Trump been indicted of money laundering? Is there anything in official with regards to this?
Or is Congress or anyone else in authority able to seize bank records because they feel like it?
“The potential use of the U.S. financial system for illicit purposes is a very serious concern,” Waters said in April when she issued the subpoenas. “The Financial Services Committee is exploring these matters, including as they may involve the President and his associates, as thoroughly as possible pursuant to its oversight authority, and will follow the facts wherever they may lead us.”
In other words, they have nothing, and this is a fishing expedition. They are "exploring these matters". It "may involve the President". They will follow the facts wherever it leads them. They are totally searching for a crime at this point.
Eric Trump, the president's son and an executive vice president of the Trump Organization, slammed the subpoenas as an "abuse of power" in a statement to NBC News.
“This subpoena is an unprecedented abuse of power and simply the latest attempt by House Democrats to attack the President and our family for political gain," he said. "Instead of legislating, the committee is obsessed with harassing and undermining my father’s administration, doing everything they can to distract from his incredible accomplishments. This incompetence is the exact reason why the American people have such disdain for politicians and why my father was elected President. Today’s actions by the committee set a horrible precedent for all taxpayers.”
I agree with the underlined.
This was at the bottom of the article...
Trump said in 2017 that any efforts by special counsel Robert Mueller to look into his business dealings would be crossing "a red line." He also reportedly exploded in anger after erroneous news reports that Mueller had subpoenaed records from Deutsche Bank, which led Trump to consider firing Mueller in early December 2017, The New York Times reported, citing White House officials, people close to the president and others familiar with the episode.
People cheering on this behavior by the Democrats need to step back and actually think what's taking place.
Legislators in Congress are seizing bank records... NOT because a crime was committed... but to search for a crime with which to attempt to impeach Trump.
If they do it to him, they will do it to anyone.
I have no problem people who oppose Trump politically or personally or whatever, but this goes over the line.
Trump was subjected to a two year investigation and was cleared. Even Mueller didn't go this far.
If you are OK with this behavior... it will come back to bite you. Bank on it.
A key congressional committee has already gained access to President Donald Trump’s dealings with two major financial institutions, two sources familiar with the House probe tell NBC News, as a court ruling Wednesday promised to open the door for even more records to be handed over.
Wells Fargo and TD Bank are the two of nine institutions that have so far complied with subpoenas issued by the House Financial Services Committee demanding information about their dealings with the Trump Organization, according to the sources. The disclosures by these two banks haven’t been previously reported. Both TD Bank and Wells Fargo declined to comment for this story.
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The subpoenas, details of which have not been released to the public, are predicated on the notion that Congress has access to the information under the Bank Secrecy Act, which allows Congress access to financial information to search for money laundering, according to a person who has seen them.
Has Trump been indicted of money laundering? Is there anything in official with regards to this?
Or is Congress or anyone else in authority able to seize bank records because they feel like it?
“The potential use of the U.S. financial system for illicit purposes is a very serious concern,” Waters said in April when she issued the subpoenas. “The Financial Services Committee is exploring these matters, including as they may involve the President and his associates, as thoroughly as possible pursuant to its oversight authority, and will follow the facts wherever they may lead us.”
In other words, they have nothing, and this is a fishing expedition. They are "exploring these matters". It "may involve the President". They will follow the facts wherever it leads them. They are totally searching for a crime at this point.
Absolutely disgusting, their attempt with the "Collusion Illusion" failed now they have sunk to a new level of desperation in their witch hunt to bring President Trump down in their search for a crime, instead of working with the president to fix the issues our nation faces.
Absolutely disgusting, their attempt with the "Collusion Illusion" failed now they have sunk to a new level of desperation in their witch hunt to bring President Trump down in their search for a crime, instead of working with the president to fix the issues our nation faces.
If he cared about the issues that our nation faces he would not have stomped out of the room yesterday. He doesn't give a crap about this country. It is all Trump all the time in his mind. And you are kidding yourself if you think otherwise.
We are seeing an endless witch hunt and a search for a crime. If this sort of thing was being conducted by a prosecutor's office anywhere in this country against a political opponent, it would rightfully be called an abuse of power.
As usual, Democrats, be careful which cans you're opening.
Well, Cohen testified under oath that financial crimes were committed and a money laundering expert that saw Trump's records stated that there was reasonable suspicion that a crime was taking place sufficient to alert the Treasury Department.
The premise that a crime must first be proven before the authority with oversight responsibilities can endeavor on an investigation of such allegations is buffoonish on its face.
If he cared about the issues that our nation faces he would not have stomped out of the room yesterday. He doesn't give a crap about this country. It is all Trump all the time in his mind. And you are kidding yourself if you think otherwise.
The whole premise about this is that he is an agent for Russia and he doesn't have our best interest at hand.
Please tell me how the American people have been harmed in some way as a direct consequence of activities or policies with Russia.
Economy - up
Unemplyment - down at record levels
No foreign wars
Trying to limit financial damage from bad trade deals
Prison reform
If he cared about the issues that our nation faces he would not have stomped out of the room yesterday. He doesn't give a crap about this country. It is all Trump all the time in his mind. And you are kidding yourself if you think otherwise.
if the fascist liberals actually wanted to help this country, then they would be talking to him about infrastructure, instead all they talk about is impeachment and finding a crime to fit, when there is none
Well, Cohen testified under oath that financial crimes were committed and a money laundering expert that saw Trump's records stated that there was reasonable suspicion that a crime was taking place sufficient to alert the Treasury Department.
The premise that a crime must first be proven before the authority with oversight responsibilities can endeavor on an investigation of such allegations is buffoonish on its face.
Curious that so many keep either forgetting or ignoring this.
As I noted in the "Manafort in Prison" thread, two different reports out today about evidence of "pay-to-play" both involving bank loans, one made to Manafort and one to Trump, the latter in 2018 no less.
Anyone who thinks that there is no reason to pursue this has blinders on.
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