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People cheering on this behavior by the Democrats need to step back and actually think what's taking place.
Legislators in Congress are seizing bank records... NOT because a crime was committed... but to search for a crime with which to attempt to impeach Trump.
If they do it to him, they will do it to anyone.
I have no problem people who oppose Trump politically or personally or whatever, but this goes over the line.
Trump was subjected to a two year investigation and was cleared. Even Mueller didn't go this far.
If you are OK with this behavior... it will come back to bite you. Bank on it.
A key congressional committee has already gained access to President Donald Trump’s dealings with two major financial institutions, two sources familiar with the House probe tell NBC News, as a court ruling Wednesday promised to open the door for even more records to be handed over.
Wells Fargo and TD Bank are the two of nine institutions that have so far complied with subpoenas issued by the House Financial Services Committee demanding information about their dealings with the Trump Organization, according to the sources. The disclosures by these two banks haven’t been previously reported. Both TD Bank and Wells Fargo declined to comment for this story.
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The subpoenas, details of which have not been released to the public, are predicated on the notion that Congress has access to the information under the Bank Secrecy Act, which allows Congress access to financial information to search for money laundering, according to a person who has seen them.
Has Trump been indicted of money laundering? Is there anything in official with regards to this?
Or is Congress or anyone else in authority able to seize bank records because they feel like it?
“The potential use of the U.S. financial system for illicit purposes is a very serious concern,” Waters said in April when she issued the subpoenas. “The Financial Services Committee is exploring these matters, including as they may involve the President and his associates, as thoroughly as possible pursuant to its oversight authority, and will follow the facts wherever they may lead us.”
In other words, they have nothing, and this is a fishing expedition. They are "exploring these matters". It "may involve the President". They will follow the facts wherever it leads them. They are totally searching for a crime at this point.
Don’t they have a right to know if the POTUS is a Russian puppet?
People cheering on this behavior by the Democrats need to step back and actually think what's taking place.
Legislators in Congress are seizing bank records... NOT because a crime was committed... but to search for a crime with which to attempt to impeach Trump.
If they do it to him, they will do it to anyone.
"In 2016 and 2017, computer systems that screen for potential money laundering at Deutsche Bank flagged transactions conducted by legal entities owned by President Donald Trump and White House adviser Jared Kushner as suspicious." https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...actions-ignore
"Deutsche Bank-in-house investigators also had concerns about potential illegal activity: In 2016 and 2017, the bank’s anti-money-laundering specialists recommended that several transactions involving entities owned by Donald Trump and his son-in-law Jared Kushner be reported to the wing of the Treasury Department that oversees financial crimes."
"Deutsche compliance staff reportedly prepared “suspicious-activity reports” on the transactions — including at least one from the now-defunct Trump Foundation. The details of the transactions are not clear, but some of them reportedly involve money moving between international accounts, which the bank found suspicious." Deutsche Flagged Trump, Kushner for Money Laundering: Report
Should US presidents bank accounts be investigated when bank computers and in house bank investigators find transactions that are "suspicious" and possible "money laundering"?
Or should possible financial crimes like the above just be ignored?
So the best argument for Trump is that Trump is as "crooked" as Hillary? Shouldn't that mean Republican melt-downs, screeching and name-calling towards Trump?
People cheering on this behavior by the Democrats need to step back and actually think what's taking place.
Legislators in Congress are seizing bank records... NOT because a crime was committed... but to search for a crime with which to attempt to impeach Trump.
If they do it to him, they will do it to anyone.
I have no problem people who oppose Trump politically or personally or whatever, but this goes over the line.
Trump was subjected to a two year investigation and was cleared. Even Mueller didn't go this far.
If you are OK with this behavior... it will come back to bite you. Bank on it.
A key congressional committee has already gained access to President Donald Trump’s dealings with two major financial institutions, two sources familiar with the House probe tell NBC News, as a court ruling Wednesday promised to open the door for even more records to be handed over.
Wells Fargo and TD Bank are the two of nine institutions that have so far complied with subpoenas issued by the House Financial Services Committee demanding information about their dealings with the Trump Organization, according to the sources. The disclosures by these two banks haven’t been previously reported. Both TD Bank and Wells Fargo declined to comment for this story.
...
The subpoenas, details of which have not been released to the public, are predicated on the notion that Congress has access to the information under the Bank Secrecy Act, which allows Congress access to financial information to search for money laundering, according to a person who has seen them.
Has Trump been indicted of money laundering? Is there anything in official with regards to this?
Or is Congress or anyone else in authority able to seize bank records because they feel like it?
“The potential use of the U.S. financial system for illicit purposes is a very serious concern,” Waters said in April when she issued the subpoenas. “The Financial Services Committee is exploring these matters, including as they may involve the President and his associates, as thoroughly as possible pursuant to its oversight authority, and will follow the facts wherever they may lead us.”
In other words, they have nothing, and this is a fishing expedition. They are "exploring these matters". It "may involve the President". They will follow the facts wherever it leads them. They are totally searching for a crime at this point.
They wan a war I am sure President Trump is more than happy to give them one....I am glad the American people get to see what liars the leftists are...They have done NOTHING they campaigned on and instead have kept up their orange man bad tactics of harrassing the president. I'm sure it will do them a lot of good in 2020.
Unproven financial crimes. Do we now substitute legislative 'investigation, trial and sentencing' and just ignore the due process of our judicial system?
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Originally Posted by chad3
"In 2016 and 2017, computer systems that screen for potential money laundering at Deutsche Bank flagged transactions conducted by legal entities owned by President Donald Trump and White House adviser Jared Kushner as suspicious." https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...actions-ignore
"Deutsche Bank-in-house investigators also had concerns about potential illegal activity: In 2016 and 2017, the bank’s anti-money-laundering specialists recommended that several transactions involving entities owned by Donald Trump and his son-in-law Jared Kushner be reported to the wing of the Treasury Department that oversees financial crimes."
"Deutsche compliance staff reportedly prepared “suspicious-activity reports” on the transactions — including at least one from the now-defunct Trump Foundation. The details of the transactions are not clear, but some of them reportedly involve money moving between international accounts, which the bank found suspicious." Deutsche Flagged Trump, Kushner for Money Laundering: Report
Should US presidents bank accounts be investigated when bank computers and in house bank investigators find transactions that are "suspicious" and possible "money laundering"?
Or should possible financial crimes like the above just be ignored?
Unproven financial crimes. Do we now substitute legislative 'investigation, trial and sentencing' and just ignore the due process of our judicial system?
Is “reportedly” good enough reason for this. Would you approve of the same if it was you?
Deutsche compliance staff reportedly prepared “suspicious-activity reports” on the transactions — including at least one from the now-defunct Trump Foundation. The details of the transactions are not clear, but some of them reportedly involve money moving between international accounts, which the bank found suspicious."
the fascist liberals should be warned to tread very carefully in this...as they may open up a can of worms on themselves
you say you want a honest debate... mention "business dealing of trump with Russia...
but as soon as someone shows the facts that hitlery/Obama had many of the same dealing..you dismiss it
Wow, let's subpoena Clinton's and Obama's income tax records!
Oh, wait, they are already public record, that anyone can look at. It's only Trump that won't come clean. We're moving from Reasonable Suspicion to Probable Cause here.
We still don't know what is going on. Was Trump just lying about how rich he is? Could be. If his mouth is moving, you know he's lying. If he's been taking bribes from foreign governments, then yeah, we need to whack him with the fasces. It's a symbol of our republic, not of an imperial president.
The reverse of the Mercury Dime, the design used until the adoption of the current FDR dime in 1945, features a fasces.
On the obverse of the 1896 $1 Educational Series note there is a fasces leaning against the wall behind the youth.
In the Oval Office, above the door leading to the exterior walkway, and above the corresponding door on the opposite wall, which leads to the president's private office; note: the fasces depicted have no axes, possibly because in the Roman Republic, the blade was always removed from the bundle whenever the fasces were carried inside the city, in order to symbolize the rights of citizens against arbitrary state power (see above)
Two fasces appear on either side of the flag of the United States behind the podium in the United States House of Representatives, and were added to the chamber's decor during the remodeling project of 1950.[10]
The Mace of the United States House of Representatives resembles fasces and consists of thirteen ebony rods bound together in the same fashion as the fasces, topped by a silver eagle on a globe
The official seal of the United States Senate has as one component a pair of crossed fasces
Fasces ring the base of the Statue of Freedom atop the United States Capitol building
A frieze on the facade of the United States Supreme Court building depicts the figure of a Roman centurion holding a fasces, to represent "order"[11]
The National Guard uses the fasces on the seal of the National Guard Bureau, and it appears in the insignia of Regular Army officers assigned to National Guard liaison and in the insignia and unit symbols of National Guard units themselves; for instance, the regimental crest of the 71st Infantry Regiment (New York) of the New York National Guard consisted of a gold fasces set on a blue background
At the Lincoln Memorial, Lincoln's seat of state bears the fasces—without axes—on the fronts of its arms; fasces also appear on the pylons flanking the main staircase leading into the memorial
The official seal of the United States Tax Court bears the fasces at its center
Four fasces flank the two bronze plaques on either side of the bust of Lincoln memorializing his Gettysburg Address at Gettysburg, Pennsylvania
The seal of the United States Courts Administrative Office includes a fasces behind crossed quill and scroll
In the Washington Monument, there is a statue of George Washington leaning on a fasces
A fasces is a common element in U.S. Army Military Police heraldry, most visibly on the shoulder sleeve insignia of the 18th Military Police Brigade and the 42nd Military Police Brigade
A fasces also appears shoulder sleeve insignia of the U.S. Army Reserve Legal Command
Seated beside George Washington, a figure holds a fasces as part of The Apotheosis of Washington, a fresco mural suspended above the rotunda of the United States Capitol Building.
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