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You mean the guys who flew our planes into our buildings filled with American passengers and American office workers? Those guys? You think they need our help demonizing?
Nope. If the Germans hadn't tried to exterminate the Jews, the UN wouldn't have created Israel. Today's Islamists are every bit as vile as the Nazis were. And much like in the 30s...today's liberals are embracing Islamists as they did National Socialists. The promise of the genocide of the people of Israel from Iran's LEADERSHIP is every bit as vile as what Hitler promoted.
Today's Islamist lack the courage of the Nazis though. Rather than declaring and waging a war against them, they launch anonymous rockets and hide behind women and children. Following the teachings of Moho-a warlord, rapist, murderer and pedophile.
That's a lie. Germans were not the only anti-Semites. Hungary deported, gassed, murdered,and stole the property of Jews who actually helped the country prosper. They were the intellectuals, artists and athletes that brought honor to the country. United States refused to take in Jews. Jews were received in India, Brazii, Argentina who made space for them - all brown people country. No country in the middle- east or Arab country persecuted Jews to the extent the white Christian nationalists did and continue to do. That is the reason Jews demanded their own country and drove out Palestinians from their own homes - doing what was done to them by the white Christians.
...really?...ever here of the 'Balfour Declaration", signed in 1917...
It's certainly worth noting here:
Balfour Declaration
Quote:
Arthur James Balfour was the prime minister of the United Kingdom from July 1902 to December 1905, and later became the foreign secretary.
The declaration read: "His Majesty's government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country."
Hamas is none of my concern. I don’t care about Israel’s politics or their geopolitical issues. Nor is CAIR my problem.
Demonstrate how Omar is anti Jewish. Sounds to me as if she’s pro-Arab. What’s wrong with that?
Cop out.
If it's none of your concern, why even bother posting? For me, I am certainly concerned when a group vows to wipe off the map a nation that we helped to create, and which remains our only trustworthy ally in the most dangerous and war-torn region in the current world.
You have a double standard here. You've repeatedly expressed the sentiment that President Trump is a racist, based on vague innuendo, yet you give Rep. Omar a pass when she has clear and admitted links to anti-Semitic organizations.
BTW, Omar is not Arab. She's of Somali/East African ancestry.
If it's none of your concern, why even bother posting? For me, I am certainly concerned when a group vows to wipe off the map a nation that we helped to create, and which remains our only trustworthy ally in the most dangerous and war-torn region in the current world.
You have a double standard here. You've repeatedly expressed the sentiment that President Trump is a racist, based on vague innuendo, yet you give Rep. Omar a pass when she has clear and admitted links to anti-Semitic organizations.
BTW, Omar is not Arab. She's of Somali/East African ancestry.
Yessiree, Travis! That's the problem (well.....one of them) that I have with liberals. They are quick to pounce on any (false) perception of racism (e.g., saying conservatives are afraid of "brown people" when they express disapproval of illegal aliens) but just as quick to give a pass to obvious antisemitism. Their tolerance of and excuse-making for blatant anti-Jew sentiment while simultaneously crashing down hard on even the possibility of racism sends an unmistakable message, and a dangerous one: that anti-Jew sentiment isn't as concerning as anti-black sentiment.
A discussion for why that is could be a thread in itself. I have my theory.
This is the issue in a nutshell. The Muslims are the current "culture du jour" for Liberal/Progressives in Europe, and the U.S. After the holocaust in Germany and elsewhere in Europe the Jews were seen as victims, and a cause celeb by this same group. That has totally flip flopped. Jews are out. Muslims are in, even though they abuse women and Gays, they are seen as the new downtrodden in which the Libs can Virtue Signal about.
The problem is the Muslims hate the very people that are welcoming them into their new countries. Ironic, isn't it?
I have read every comment in this thread, few and far between that seem reasonable about what the issue truly is "in a nutshell" or even generally speaking...
How difficult is it, really, for ANYONE to recognize the likes of antiSemitism or racism or sexism or homophobia, bigotry and all the rest of the nonsense born of ignorance? The problem and/or confusion "in a nutshell" is the use of all these broad-brushed profiling generalities, very short on specifics, that are actually just more expression of biased bigotry. Emotion and opinion having little to do with actually distinguishing right from wrong.
Generalities: Muslims, Jews, liberals, Germans, young Germans...
Like all these people can be judged as one rather than as individuals? What's that called people? What about the specifics instead, as to who is actually promoting right vs wrong? What about the facts, reason and logic?
Like there are not SOME Jews who hate Muslims for no other reason beyond the fact they believe in Islam? Plus all their other can't-be-forgotten long history reasons.
Like there are not SOME muslims who hate Jews for no other reason than because they believe in Judaism? Plus all their other can't-be-forgotten long history reasons.
Muslims don't much like Jews and Jews don't much like Muslims? Who needs to hear any more about this damn ancient beef between the Hatfields and McCoys? Who needs any further understanding about the source of the Islamophobia or antiSemitism in these regards?
What more need be understood about this? That it's getting worse? What about WHY it's getting worse? Anyone want to suggest there is only one answer to that question?
Meanwhile, how much time can we spend "demonizing" everyone with these broad-brushed "them vs us" narratives rather than focus on who is actually not antiSemitic among liberals or Muslims or Americans in general? How many more mind-numbing threads? What about an intelligent focus on the WHY with regard to what people are thinking? Perhaps to allow a more intelligent discussion about what might actually "move the needle" toward progress instead of this never-ending effort to generate more division and hostility?
I know good white people and I know bad white people. I know Trump supporters who are absolute deek-heads, and I know Trump supporters who are very good friends of mine, good people. I know Jews who are very good people. Some not so much. I know black people who are fine people. Some not so much. Must admit I don't know many Muslims personally, but I also know OF Muslims who seem altogether good people.
Most importantly, my judgement is not a function of being liberal, racist, Jewish or Muslim. It's simply a matter of judging right from wrong no matter a person's color of skin, religion and/or beliefs! It is wrong to subvert or confuse the truth with all these biased generalities, agendas and one-sided narratives that makes objective reason almost impossible. It is wrong to do so rather than promote an honest effort to promote free speech and to judge fairly, free of all the "noise."
Or, with all due respect to the OP regarding her specific claim, I do not agree "Political Correctness blinds us to the causes of antiSemitism," certainly not everyone and certainly not most average intelligent people who view the PC effort as simply being civil to others, to avoid unnecessary insult to all people who are different from us. Fair?
Maybe their history makes them particularly aware of ethnic crimes...
Yugoslavia's messy fate was also tied to religious-ethnic conflicts involving the same ****ty religions from the Middle East and unfortunately imported into Europe.
There is a saying in many languages: one can't undo one crime with another. The Jews' fate in Europe was not the Palestinians' fault. The Jews should have been given a part of Europe, Germany specifically.
By the way, Israelis are also Palestinians, just like Palestinians are also Semites. The language used today often wrongly implies differences that are not there.
The Palestinians ('Philistines') were originally 'people of the sea,' probably from Greek islands, who came to modern day Israel around 1000 BC. They were warlike, and gained their territory via military conquest.
Abraham, father of the Jewish people, was originally from modern-day Iraq, and arrived in modern day Israel around 2000 BC. His initial acquisition of property was carefully done by purchase in accord with local laws, but later territory was acquired via military conquest.
There are various theories regarding their origins.
I doubt the Greek origin as genetically modern Palestinians are very similar to Jews.
Abraham's origin like much else in the Old Testament is even more uncertain.
The Palestinians ('Philistines') were originally 'people of the sea,' probably from Greek islands, who came to modern day Israel around 1000 BC. They were warlike, and gained their territory via military conquest.
Abraham, father of the Jewish people, was originally from modern-day Iraq, and arrived in modern day Israel around 2000 BC. His initial acquisition of property was carefully done by purchase in accord with local laws, but later territory was acquired via military conquest.
Just one correction, if I may. It was not only Abraham who paid for land in Israel, but so did Jews in the mid-20th century upon Israel's founding. They paid Arabs a great deal for their arid, unfarmable land - far more than it was worth. Surprisingly few people know that the Jews didn't just take all that land - they paid for it.
On the other hand, did the Arabs pay the 850,000 Jews they expelled from Arab countries when they took Jewish property? I won't keep you in suspense: they didn't.
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