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They used the swastika because it was associated with Ancient Aryan people which they believed they were the pure blooded descendants of. I don't think you realize how deep and how intensely the Nazi leadership took Germanic Mythicism.
There is a very interesting documentary about the occult history of the Third Reich that was done in the 1990's titled Nazis: The Occult Conspiracy
Sorry, I can't watch that video, too long for my Internet access. I suppose it tells of the Himalaya connection etc.? I have read all about the messy, esoteric cultural ideas the Nazis had. Basically, they had to reconcile the Nordic ideal, which was not their idea, with the reality of all those ancient, non-Nordic civilizations like Iran/Persia and India. I think they failed to distinguish between genetics and linguistics.
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The Nazis were confused about their identity and history( they had none) and wanted to steal something from a superior culture and show it off as their own. Thats why they put lots of efforts in learning Sanskrit and "aryanizing" themselves. A lot of things happened after Max Mueller started reading ancient Indian literature, vedas. And from 1850-1950 there are disproportionate number of scientists originating from germany especially in physics.
And the other "historians" used it to their advantage to further their "Aryan invasion theory " and Sanskirt was an "Indo-European" language etc, propaganda.
And Hitler could be both. A Christian or a Jew. But definitely one of them for sure.
Yes, they wanted to create something unifying that had never been there. They hijacked other cultures like some blacks hijack ancient Egypt today.
Who are the California racists? The Nazi symbol of terror is of their own imagination. It is the the reverse of Indian symbol for peace and prosperity.
The Nazi swastika is not reverse, it is the same as the official symbol of Jainism, an ancient Indian religion.
"Eugenics was born as a scientific curiosity in the Victorian age. In 1863, Sir Francis Galton, a cousin of Charles Darwin, theorized that if talented people only married other talented people, the result would be measurably better offspring. At the turn of the last century, Galton's ideas were imported into the United States just as Gregor Mendel's principles of heredity were rediscovered. American eugenic advocates believed with religious fervor that the same Mendelian concepts determining the color and size of peas, corn and cattle also governed the social and intellectual character of man.
In an America demographically reeling from immigration upheaval and torn by post-Reconstruction chaos, race conflict was everywhere in the early twentieth century. Elitists, utopians and so-called "progressives" fused their smoldering race fears and class bias with their desire to make a better world. They reinvented Galton's eugenics into a repressive and racist ideology. The intent: populate the earth with vastly more of their own socio-economic and biological kind--and less or none of everyone else.
The superior species the eugenics movement sought was populated not merely by tall, strong, talented people. Eugenicists craved blond, blue-eyed Nordic types. This group alone, they believed, was fit to inherit the earth. In the process, the movement intended to subtract emancipated Negroes, immigrant Asian laborers, Indians, Hispanics, East Europeans, Jews, dark-haired hill folk, poor people, the infirm and really anyone classified outside the gentrified genetic lines drawn up by American raceologists.
How? By identifying so-called "defective" family trees and subjecting them to lifelong segregation and sterilization programs to kill their bloodlines. The grand plan was to literally wipe away the reproductive capability of those deemed weak and inferior--the so-called "unfit." The eugenicists hoped to neutralize the viability of 10 percent of the population at a sweep, until none were left except themselves.
Eighteen solutions were explored in a Carnegie-supported 1911 "Preliminary Report of the Committee of the Eugenic Section of the American Breeder's Association to Study and to Report on the Best Practical Means for Cutting Off the Defective Germ-Plasm in the Human Population." Point eight was euthanasia."
"Eugenics was born as a scientific curiosity in the Victorian age. In 1863, Sir Francis Galton, a cousin of Charles Darwin, theorized that if talented people only married other talented people, the result would be measurably better offspring. At the turn of the last century, Galton's ideas were imported into the United States just as Gregor Mendel's principles of heredity were rediscovered. American eugenic advocates believed with religious fervor that the same Mendelian concepts determining the color and size of peas, corn and cattle also governed the social and intellectual character of man.
In an America demographically reeling from immigration upheaval and torn by post-Reconstruction chaos, race conflict was everywhere in the early twentieth century. Elitists, utopians and so-called "progressives" fused their smoldering race fears and class bias with their desire to make a better world. They reinvented Galton's eugenics into a repressive and racist ideology. The intent: populate the earth with vastly more of their own socio-economic and biological kind--and less or none of everyone else.
The superior species the eugenics movement sought was populated not merely by tall, strong, talented people. Eugenicists craved blond, blue-eyed Nordic types. This group alone, they believed, was fit to inherit the earth. In the process, the movement intended to subtract emancipated Negroes, immigrant Asian laborers, Indians, Hispanics, East Europeans, Jews, dark-haired hill folk, poor people, the infirm and really anyone classified outside the gentrified genetic lines drawn up by American raceologists.
How? By identifying so-called "defective" family trees and subjecting them to lifelong segregation and sterilization programs to kill their bloodlines. The grand plan was to literally wipe away the reproductive capability of those deemed weak and inferior--the so-called "unfit." The eugenicists hoped to neutralize the viability of 10 percent of the population at a sweep, until none were left except themselves.
Eighteen solutions were explored in a Carnegie-supported 1911 "Preliminary Report of the Committee of the Eugenic Section of the American Breeder's Association to Study and to Report on the Best Practical Means for Cutting Off the Defective Germ-Plasm in the Human Population." Point eight was euthanasia."
This ^ is historically correct rather than 'politically correct' or 'anti-politically-correct'.
“Scientific racism” is on the rise on the right. But it’s been lurking there for years.
There is a long history of anti-Jewish persecution by Roman Catholics in Europe and by Protestants and Catholics in the USA. I've worked in NYC for many years and became painfully aware of an anti-catholic hostility by Jews which included swearing in situations where it would have been unprofessional for me to react in kind.
Let's look at this truth. When Jews are in the majority and in positions of power they act just like the Roman Catholics did for centuries. By my own experience, they become abusive and hostile. We Catholics do compare notes. Perhaps the very act of comparing notes is anti-Semitic. You do seem to use the term when someone says something that you don't like.
A very sad truth among people who tend to emphasize a "them vs us" way of life. Over emphasize if you ask me. Some people are intent on distinguishing themselves in ways that are very separatist and especially among those who make a point of distinguishing themselves as different, separate and apart from others, not privately but very publicly, there is all the more likelihood for tension with others, but not necessarily! Interesting don't you think...?
Gays, for example, can clearly distinguish themselves from the greater population of heterosexuals, but the only real friction there is on the part of SOME heterosexuals who are intolerant of gays (for their own ignorant reasons). People of different faith can also get along, but sure seems to me the more fundamental the differences and the more extreme the display of those differences, up to and including the exclusion of others with all their special versions of scripture and secret handshake type rituals, so begins the problem.
Then there are people more inclined toward the "live and let live" way of life that is not quite so bent on promoting a way of thinking and believing that forever pits "them against us" in so many ridiculous ways.
...so you didn't read it, did you?......it absolutely is the reason Israel exists...
Can't say I wasn't scratching my head about the same thing, because if the Balfour Declaration isn't the reason Israel exists, it sure is a significant part of the reason. There are other reasons too of course, still being protested and/or promoted today...
...so you didn't read it, did you?......it absolutely is the reason Israel exists...
If the BD was The reason Israel exists, why wasn't there an Israel before 1948. You don't know much, if anything, about Britain's policy toward a Jewish state in the decades after the BD. Regardless, the reasons Israel came to exist when it did is off-topic, so believe what you want.
If the BD was The reason Israel exists, why wasn't there an Israel before 1948. You don't know much, if anything, about Britain's policy toward a Jewish state in the decades after the BD. Regardless, the reasons Israel came to exist when it did is off-topic, so believe what you want.
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I was not quite 11 years old May 14, 1948, when the Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel was read by David Ben-Gurion on the eve of Shabbat and rebroadcast the following night on my great aunt’s shortwave radio. We had just finished Havdalah.
I was quite impressed by the words of the text that proclaimed the promise of the state to “foster the development of the country for the benefit of all its inhabitants; it will be based on freedom, justice and peace; it will ensure complete equality of social and political rights to all its inhabitants irrespective of religion, race or sex; it will guarantee freedom of religion, conscience, language, education and culture. … We appeal to the Arab inhabitants of the State of Israel to preserve peace and participate in the up building of the State on the basis of full and equal citizenship and due representation in all its provisional and permanent institutions.”
Seventy years later, the state of Israel has tragically expurgated these promises to the dust bin of history. In just one week, the right-wing coalition that governs the country and controls the Knesset has made a mockery of the democratic principles articulated in Israel’s founding document. Consider: ...
If the BD was The reason Israel exists, why wasn't there an Israel before 1948. You don't know much, if anything, about Britain's policy toward a Jewish state in the decades after the BD. Regardless, the reasons Israel came to exist when it did is off-topic, so believe what you want.
Confused by your logic here...
Perhaps just a question of semantics? Perhaps better put, the BD lead the way toward the creation of Israel?
When criticism about this sort of thing as expressed in this opinion piece is conflated with antiSemitism, is it fair to suspect this might be part of what leads to more antiSemitism, real or imagined?
Of course antiSemites don't distinguish between Jewish people who think one way vs another, so in this respect as well, I feel sorry for Jewish people who are wrongly thrown under the same bus as others more deserving of legitimate criticism. As always, there are those more than wanting to broad-brush display their bigotry rather than intelligently discerning these important distinctions even in the slightest way.
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...it absolutely is the reason Israel exists...