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And a sad example of how far the USA has fallen since then. Eisenhower, Churchill and all the other great heroes of that tragic war. How about all the brave men who gave their lives for our freedom. But 75 years later we send them Trump. Trump, who never served, doesn't know or care, corrupt, only cares about money.
Funny but without American money, manufacturing, jobs and production the UK and Russia both would have probably been over run by Germany during the war.
These are the things that keep a Free world strong and Free. Losing all of these to places like China, Mexico and Vietnam prevents us from being the power to win a conflict like WW2 if we ever needed.
“For the Trump's official visit, Buckingham Palace is pulling out all of the Royal stops befitting a world leader. An official state visit requires the formal invitation of the Queen to a head of state "on the advice of the Foreign and Commonwealth office," per Buckingham Palace, and usually involves a ceremonial welcome, a state banquet, other meetings with British officials and a formal farewell.”
For all the liberals that attempt to criticize President Trump for not serving in the Armed Forces of the United States, I can almost agree with you on that one issue since I believe that the President, male or female, should have served in military, Active/Reserves/National Guard prior to being elected as Commander and Chief.
It's not just about not having served. All the deferments to dodge serving are an insult to those who got drafted and served, and many who never made it home. Then his blatant use of patriotism to rally his base, when he is amongst the least deserving to use it given his background, Commander-in-Chief or not. Trump's statements about Senator and POW John McCain (regardless what one thinks of John McCain otherwise) speak to his irreverence to those who sacrificed for their country.
With that said, just remember that Bill Clinton and Obama never served in the military as well. Neither has Hillary Clinton or Comrade Bernie Sanders (Who met with Soviet government officials during the Cold War.).... Or most, if not all, of the democrats that will be running in 2020. As for only caring about money, that would be Hillary. Who sold her influence to the highest bidder, while serving in public office, for her own and her family's enrichment.
Clinton, Obama did not make a blatant show of being a great patriot. Clinton was another to slip through the draft and I view him in this regard as no better than Trump. All those "other" Dems you criticize for not having served, well plenty of Republicans did likewise. It was fairly common that some young men with politically connected parents managed to get out of being drafted regardless of party. We might agree about some things about Hillary Clinton. She is a person from modest means who managed to elbow her way to wealth through smarts and cunning and husbands position. Bill the serial adulterer puts him in a good size group of politicians (and of course general population) who were likewise.
Btw, Hillary's lie about being under "sniper fire" doesn't count as a combat deployment.
Just another example of those who stretch the truth to suit their needs. Not as ugly as the Brian Williams falsehoods, but exaggeration at the very least.
The recent Times spread of First Lady and Presidential candidate Hillary showing-off her home decorating skill (or to some lack thereof) was a big turnoff. Never a good idea for political person to flaunt their largess when so many struggle just to keep their heads above water. Anyone else notice all the gold decor in White House press shots since Trump arrived? Appears Trump, Putin and the Saudi sheiks have an obsession for ostentatious gold and crystal decor.
It's sad, but the last election was about the "lesser of two evils" and I think most of the world knows that too. I'm sure the British elite will turn their collective noises at Trump, but I bet that the average working Briton likes this "American."
That's a generalization heard in certain circles. It is rather simplistic, but many like their reality in black and white. Shades of gray require critical thinking that many have no motivation in pursing.
The caste system in Briton is pretty entrenched, though some modest progress has happened. Britain has their royals and American had their Camelot. John and Robert Kennedy would torment and laugh at LBJ's background, speech and lack of worldliness. The Kennedy brothers, as Trump, were silver spoon kids born into lives of wealth. Big difference was John served in the military, and both John and Robert were intellectually curious. Again and again Trump questions the IQ of those he disagrees with. It seems to me he has self-esteem issues. Among Trump's other negative character defects, he is a lowbrow and vengeful man regardless of his given advantages in life.
Yes UK has large part of population that would like to turn clock back to time Briton ruled the world, and the Union Jack was feared as flag of the colonizer.
The sad thing is that the MSN will not show any positive images of Trump, just the negative stuff, which will most likely be very misleading, at best.
Yes a liberal bias against Trump. The conservative media overplays things the other way. That does not take away from obvious that Trump is a crude and vulgar man with a giant chip on his shoulder who has used his executive power to turn back anything related to Obama regardless whether it is harmful to US and its allies or not. I'm most concerned that some of his actions will strengthen our enemies just as much or more than Obama's red line strengthened some of our enemies. Some Trump trade tariffs are showing cracks, as within the agricultural community.
At a time when Americans would be best to unite to better their lot, they instead tear each other apart over petty political partisanship.
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Is there any point to this trip to England other than yet another photo op?
Yes, trade discussions and assurance to the people of UK that we will immediately negotiate a trade agreement after Brexit divorce is final. Great move again by our great President!
Their Snowflakes as well as ours can wail and gnash their teeth while screaming at the sky....good theatre
Have you ever watched Parliament? The Brits are used to blunt talk. Maybe they appreciate hearing it from Trump.
As someone with Scottish parents, I know the Scots are among the most blunt people on the planet. But just ask most Scots what they think of Trump -- the fact that his mother was Scottish doesn't make him any more palatable for them. If anything, it embarrasses them.
Watch the documentary You've Been Trumped, for starters.
As someone with Scottish parents, I know the Scots are among the most blunt people on the planet. But just ask most Scots what they think of Trump -- the fact that his mother was Scottish doesn't make him any more palatable. If anything, it embarrasses them.
Watch the documentary You've Been Trumped, for starters.
Yet he created a worldwide real estate empire, has a Jewish daughter, son in law, and grandson, and became President, beating a candidate that everyone said would win in a landslide. Yes, something in which to be embarrassed.
Is there any point to this trip to England other than yet another photo op?
yes, to commemorate the D Day landings 75 years ago, or had that slipped your mind? that's why he's going to France, you know the place where the allied troops landed, after visiting Britain.
Funny but without American money, manufacturing, jobs and production the UK and Russia both would have probably been over run by Germany during the war.
That is a common American myth.
Russia had already demonstrated that it could hold it's own against the Germans. While it accepted the material assistance that amounted to barely more than five percent of the resources brought to bear on the war effort on the eastern front. Most Americans have no concept of the scale of the efforts and sacrifices of the Russians at that time. Their military dwarfed that of the USA, Germany and Britain combined.
Probably the most significant factor in the fall of Germany was the size of it's own economy. They needed a quick war, and the longer it dragged out the more depleted would be the resources and manpower of Germany. The participation of the USA, as great and noble as it was, accelerated the process (mostly through bombing and the attrition in Italy) but did not really determine the outcome. Attacking Russia was a mistake. It was doomed from the outset and the German General Staff/OKW knew it at the time.
Probably the most significant result of the USA in the European war was that it prevented the Soviets from occupying Europe all the way to the Pyrenees (something which might have taken the Russians several more years to accomplish alone ... something like 1947-48). For that effort on the part of the USA, France should indeed be very grateful.
Britain certainly needed the assistance the USA provided in those years.
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their teeth while screaming at the sky....good theatre
