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Old 06-15-2019, 06:28 AM
 
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The rural areas, yes.

The planet is rural.
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Old 06-15-2019, 07:09 AM
 
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Just what is this "American exceptionalism"?


American exceptionalism is the fact that the best political system in the history of man was born here and that most of the innovation that has benefitted the planet has come from the US.


If the US was not exceptional, it would simply be a Brazil or Mongolia. America provides the environment for free people to excel, and they do.


The simple fact of your posing what you presume to be a rhetorical question reinforces my premise- libs do not like themselves and thus live with an aura of negativity and defeatism. We saw it manifest on a grand scale with Carter and Obama- the champions of believing that there is nothing special about America and that our best days are behind us. If libs were in charge, that may be true.
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Old 06-15-2019, 07:47 AM
 
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We are seeing two forms of self-loathing !!!
Both are a result of political indoctrination to sow the seeds of division, discontent, & create chaos !!!

1) Personal self-loathing


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtBN4YWJbFc




2) National self-loathing

NY Gov. Andrew Cuomo says America 'was never that great' - CNN.com
https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/15/polit...eat/index.html
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Old 06-15-2019, 08:10 AM
 
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It seems as though libs have regressed to a state self loathing, in that they routinely express anger and hate over themselves.


Witness the new lib obsessions:


1. hating everything associated with being white- "white priveledge" and "white supremacy" are two of the favorite liberal sound bytes today.


2. hating males and "toxic masculinity"


3. hating Americans and American exceptionalism (they are Americans, whether they like it or not)


4. hating capitalists (got news for you)


5. hating those who produce CO2




Lots of hate and self loathing going around. One cannot function as a normal human being and hate yourself, as it is all consuming and creates a mal-adjusted individual. Perhaps as conservatives, we should seek a program to buy a lib a puppy or a kitten to cheer them up and start to curb the self loathing.


How many times do we hear even lib politicians "apologize" for being white or a white male? What the heck is going on in their heads?
So much to pick apart...but I will just pick one. I'm white...and have been upper middle class all my life. It is all I know. And I know that the color of my skin and my socio-economic status has some privileges. I know my three sons were raised with that same privilege.

Does it mean I loathe myself. No....It just recognizes that because we always had a bit of money we were able to have more opportunities. I recognize that someone who is born and raised in a poor, socio-economic community doesn't always have the same opportunities. Their schools are rarely the top of line, new technology schools with all the resources and staff needed to give the opportunity to excel not just succeed. Sure some of those kids can get through -- but it is harder for them.

I have seen families where the kids have gotten into trouble with the law for various things.. When you have money and your parents know people -- you get away with things.

So I don't loathe myself for those things...I'm just aware.
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Old 06-15-2019, 08:12 AM
 
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So much to pick apart...but I will just pick one. I'm white...and have been upper middle class all my life. It is all I know. And I know that the color of my skin and my socio-economic status has some privileges. I know my three sons were raised with that same privilege.

Does it mean I loathe myself. No....It just recognizes that because we always had a bit of money we were able to have more opportunities. I recognize that someone who is born and raised in a poor, socio-economic community doesn't always have the same opportunities. Their schools are rarely the top of line, new technology schools with all the resources and staff needed to give the opportunity to excel not just succeed. Sure some of those kids can get through -- but it is harder for them.

I have seen families where the kids have gotten into trouble with the law for various things.. When you have money and your parents know people -- you get away with things.

So I don't loathe myself for those things...I'm just aware.

I'm aware that a lot of the self loathing amongst liberals is because of their student loan debt load. They should just flee to a different country to escape the loans entirely.
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Old 06-15-2019, 08:19 AM
 
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So no "white priveledge" in you?


No socialist?


No toxic masculinity?


I guess then you are actually a conservative and don't know it, as you don't support the basic litmus tests for the dem party.


They're "trans political"....or "politically fluid". 🤣
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Old 06-15-2019, 08:20 AM
 
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I'm aware that a lot of the self loathing amongst liberals is because of their student loan debt load. They should just flee to a different country to escape the loans entirely.
So they made a dumb decision to get smart and when they got smart they realized how dumb they were to take on such debit !!!
So they are right back where they started from, feeling stupid, only now they don't want to pay for it !!!
Get out of town/country Running from failure is a mental mistake and thus avoidable !!!
Embrace it, remember it, and move on, not to make the same ones again !!! Time to grow up !!!

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Old 06-15-2019, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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It seems as though libs have regressed to a state self loathing, in that they routinely express anger and hate over themselves.


Witness the new lib obsessions:


1. hating everything associated with being white- "white priveledge" and "white supremacy" are two of the favorite liberal sound bytes today.


2. hating males and "toxic masculinity"


3. hating Americans and American exceptionalism (they are Americans, whether they like it or not)


4. hating capitalists (got news for you)


5. hating those who produce CO2




Lots of hate and self loathing going around. One cannot function as a normal human being and hate yourself, as it is all consuming and creates a mal-adjusted individual. Perhaps as conservatives, we should seek a program to buy a lib a puppy or a kitten to cheer them up and start to curb the self loathing.


How many times do we hear even lib politicians "apologize" for being white or a white male? What the heck is going on in their heads?
Most people are not extremists, left or right.
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Old 06-15-2019, 08:23 AM
 
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Just what is this "American exceptionalism"?


You remember "manifest destiny" from history class?

It's the result of the successful execution of that ideology.

The belief that America is an exceptional country, with exceptional people and an exceptional system of government.
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Old 06-15-2019, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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You can't put all liberals in the same basket. There are extremists on both sides. Extremists in the liberal camp are self-loathing. That doesn't mean all liberals are self-loathing.

If you don't want people indicting all conservatives, you shouldn't play the same game when it comes to discussing libs.
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